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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (66287)	12/12/1999 5:44:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

I don't think that is the cause of violence- a GREAT part of the cause of violence MUST be all the violence kids see- on TV, in the movies, in the horrible video games some parents let their kids play. There ARE studies that show desensitization to violence occurs with exposure. We KNOW that. And yet most people let their children watch horribly violent things. Things I can't watch because I am too uncomfortable. THIS is one of the biggest causes. Couple that EXTREME exposure to violence with a lack of supervision and you have brought the lit match and the powderkeg together- imo. It is not a liberal or conservative position to believe that exposure to violence and lack of supervision will insure tragedy. I am fairly liberal on many things- I think my child rearing is even fairly liberal. But I do think it IS a parent's (I don't care which) responsibility to RAISE their own children- and to raise a child you have to be around it quite a bit- weekend parenting really doesn't cut it.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (66287)	12/12/1999 7:52:00 PM
From: James R. Barrett	Respond to of 108807

"... the apparent eagerness I see in large groups (conservative groups, etc.) to denounce any deviation from their extreme ideals so virilently... the way they don't hesitate to say that my pov is BAD and theirs is GOOD... on any number of issues... is the root cause of all this violence, imo, and its quite ironic." Let me make it perfectly clear, I am not now nor have I ever been a right wing conservative. 1. I believe that women and gays should have the right to vote. 2. I believe that women should be allowed to inherit property even if they have a brother. 3. I believe that men should not own women like they own a horse or a cow. 4. I believe that women have a right to speak on occasion. 5. I believe that women have a right to wear trousers. 6. I believe that women are capable of opening their own doors. 7. I believe that large women should fight off would be muggers in order to protect their skinny husbands. As you can see most people would classify me as an extremely left leaning liberal.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (66287)	12/12/1999 8:23:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I think there is a big difference between part-time day care for babies and small children, and full-time. I believe that most mothers who work, statistically, work part-time, either a couple of days a week, or a few hours a day. And most of those leave their kids with a relative, like the father, or a grandmother, or a neighbor. I think if you have a baby, you'll see that it's not easy to juggle work and family, and you'll probably spend more time at home than you anticipate, but you can do stuff like telecommute, and job-share, and you'll make it work. And your kids will turn out fine. As far as I know, I am the only mother on Feelies who went to college and worked when her kids were young. I stayed home with Ben for six months, then went back, but mostly went to college at night, and Chris watched Ben. I had Ben in a really top-notch daycare about 15 hours a week, so I could go into the law office where I was clerking, and drop off work that I did at home, and pick up more work. And then I had Nick two weeks after I graduated, and I stayed home pretty much for two years, but I still worked part-time, and my mother watched the kids. And it's gone like that, Chris and my mother watched them when I worked, I had to do flex-time and part-time, and worked at night and on weekends, but I made it work. I think the kids are proud of me. Edit: I see Joan was also a working mom, and her experiences were also positive.