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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (66302)	12/12/1999 8:20:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

<<When I see all the people at Safeway struggling to figure out what 1/3 off a $1.79 item is, I don't immediately leap into a defense of "oh, the product of a stay-at-home mom - we need to stop this lifestyle choice IMMEDIATELY lest we as a society collapse into economic decline..." (which is essentially the same thing as comparing my pov with Columbine)... come on!>> Oh, dear, Lizzie, I am afraid you are getting further and further into a bit of a mess here. Are you now suggesting that stay-at-home moms aren't as intelligent or well educated as working moms? I am not sure that is going to go over very well here, particularly because the very smartest women at SI that I know have been stay-at-home moms. I think that where you started getting into trouble on this topic was NOT because you have your own opinion on the subject, but because you may not appreciate just how much nonworking moms pick up the slack for the ones who do work in the sense of school and community activities. In all fairness, your mother should not have put you in Scouts if she could not do her fair share of the work that it entails for parents. While it was wrong that you, a vulnerable child, bore the brunt of the bad feelings that others had about this, most working moms owe a huge debt to the stay-at-home moms who cover for them so that their children can participate. Given that this is the case, an appreciation of their efforts might be more effective than criticism.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (66302)	12/12/1999 8:26:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

What does not being able to figure out 1/3 off have to do with a stay at home mom? I understand you are defensive about this- especially since you were raised by a working mother. I was raised by a series of housekeepers- and I can tell you they were shitty. They let me watch all the TV I wanted. They didn't care what I did as long as I didn't interact with them. There was one good one- when I was 4 I think- she had a little boy of her own. She was wonderful and I wanted her for my mother. She would bake cookies and sew with me- but she didn't stay long. I was devastated when she left. Some of the housecleaner/babysitters even smoked in the house even thought they weren't supposed to since I had asthma. I remember being in Campfire girls and being the kid that never had a parent to drive on the campouts or go to the outings. I remember my parents never volunteering at school. My parents saved up so they could drag me around on trips to Europe and Hong Kong. You think I gave a flying fu&k about those trips? I don't even remember them. But I remember my childhood sans parents. I remember walking home by myself as a kindergartner. I remember coming home alone to an empty house in elementary school and waiting for the housecleaner to show up. Everyone's life is different- but I've been the kid who didn't have a mom and now I see other kids who are like I was- and they aren't happy. I understand JBE's point- and I sympathize with women who want to be home but can't be- but if you don't even WANT to be, then why have kids? I just don't get that at all.