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To: Neocon who wrote (66385)	12/13/1999 12:47:00 AM
From: mobilehomesalesman	Respond to of 108807

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To: Neocon who wrote (66385)	12/13/1999 9:57:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Neo, I think it's interesting that you choose to denigrate "the Canadian study" Christine referenced, when I posted TO YOU abstracts of four studies that were reported in respectable medical journals, to which you had no response other than "I need to go shopping." There were more studies, but I quit posting when it was apparent that you were going to ignore them, I assume because they were inconvenient to your world view. To use an argument that you, yourself, are fond of, if it is possible that corporal punishment of children causes them emotional harm, wouldn't the risks so greatly outweigh the potential rewards that it would be prudent to eschew it? After all, you may quibble with the conclusions of the studies I posted to you, but you can't deny that they DID CONCLUDE that corporal punishment of children is likely to cause emotional harm.

To: Neocon who wrote (66385)	12/14/1999 1:41:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<The results of the Canadian study are not conclusive enough to break such a basic compact.....>> It strikes me that in your attempt to defend either your world view or maybe your allies, you are starting to make yourself sound illogical and weak. There is no "compact" about spanking children. There are cultures where children are not spanked at all, and others like Sweden where they were in the past but there is rapid social and legislative change taking place and the practice is rapidly disappearing. While a majority of American parents still do spank, the precentage drops slightly every year. It seems to me that this is a very healthy reexamination of a damaging practice. Since you disagree, and have brushed aside the results of numerous studies, not just the Canadian one, can you perhaps come at this from another angle and find any respectable, scholarly studies published in mainstream medical journals which actually SUPPORT spanking as a positive practice, and have statistics to back up their research, showing how children benefit and become healthier as the result of being hit? How about some studies of prisoners and juvenile delinquents showing conclusively that most of them were never struck by a parent or caregiver? Or articles that reveal that a huge majority of mentally ill, depressed, alcoholic and drug-addicted adults had parents who never laid a hand to them, in anger or otherwise?