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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (2198)	12/13/1999 8:47:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 3246

This is not exactly a new discussion for me.....Anyway, on the synthesis question, I will dig up something for you....I actually spent considerable time contemplating the possibility that the modern period might not be an improvement. I finally decided that it was, but that one should be wary.....

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (2198)	12/13/1999 9:33:00 AM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

Good morning, Charley. Thanks for this posting. I wonder how many people even realize that there was also a 12th Century Renaissance? One of the most interesting debates is how "modern" any era is and in what context one defines the term "modern."

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (2198)	12/13/1999 9:51:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 3246

This is from Feelies, early August: To: jbe (48220 ) From: Neocon Monday, Aug 2 1999 11:30AM ET Reply # of 66414 Some supplementary observations: The modern world is characterized by a kind of traumatic blow to settled arrangements and traditional certainties, occasioned by varied processes, such as industrialization; urbanization; the revolution in science and technology; the breakdown of Christendom into competing sects and the making of civil peace through the quasi- secularization of society; and the radical questioning of the ground of knowledge and ethics into which philosophy fell. Conservatives cannot reverse these trends, but try to "ride the tiger", so to speak, affirming the continuities in our culture over the discontinuities, and taking a stand for maintaining human values. However, to do this properly it is necessary to realize how traumatic all of this has been, and in order to convey conservative insights to a larger audience it is necessary to appreciate that they inherited a bit of a mess, and that the mess is bigger than this generation, and part of something that transcends the responsibility of particular individuals, although it demands from us a response....