To: Carpe per Diem who wrote (6983 ) 12/14/1999 9:07:00 PM From: Richard Karpel Respond to of 10309
From Barrons Online. Timothy Keefe, lead portfolio manager of John Hancock Large Cap Value Fund: Q: One more pick, please. A: WindRiver Systems (WIND). Q: And what do they do? A: They are the provider of operating systems to non-Intel chips. We bought the stock at much lower levels. Q: It's been straight up the last month or so. A: We continue to love it. We think they dominate [their] space. Q: So, what does WindRiver bring to the table? A: WindRiver sells operating systems. Maytag does not want to invent an operating system for the chip that you need to write software [for their washing machines]. So, it takes advantage of companies outsourcing the operating system. Q: What do you like about WindRiver's business model? A: There are three revenue and earnings streams. Number one, they get a license for every engineer that is sitting around playing with VX Works, [an operating system]. Q: What else do they get revenue from? A: They get paid for service, similar to Microsoft. That's a high recurring revenue stream. And the third thing is a royalty stream. They actually get paid for every system that is installed that was written on VX Works. Q: The stock's more than doubled since late October. How much more upside is there? A: Even at 42, we still see over the next five years that this stock can increase threefold. Why? Because we think very simply that the revenues could be $1 billion in the next five to seven years. And the business model makes us very comfortable that they can do it, at least [with] a 20% net margin. We think that net margin -- $200 million in the next five or seven years -- will be capitalized [at] at least 20 times earnings, which is not heroic. That gets a $4-billion market cap. The current market cap is $1.7 billion.