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To: Carpe per Diem who wrote (6983)12/14/1999 9:07:00 PM
From: Richard Karpel  Respond to of 10309
 
From Barrons Online. Timothy Keefe, lead portfolio manager of John Hancock Large Cap Value Fund:

Q: One more pick, please.
A: WindRiver Systems (WIND).

Q: And what do they do?
A: They are the provider of operating systems to non-Intel chips. We
bought the stock at much lower levels.

Q: It's been straight up the last month or so.
A: We continue to love it. We think they dominate [their] space.

Q: So, what does WindRiver bring to the table?
A: WindRiver sells operating systems. Maytag does not want to invent an
operating system for the chip that you need to write software [for their
washing machines]. So, it takes advantage of companies outsourcing the
operating system.

Q: What do you like about WindRiver's business model?
A: There are three revenue and earnings streams. Number one, they get a license for every engineer that is sitting around
playing with VX Works, [an operating system].

Q: What else do they get revenue from?
A: They get paid for service, similar to Microsoft. That's a high recurring revenue stream. And the third thing is a royalty
stream. They actually get paid for every system that is installed that was written on VX Works.

Q: The stock's more than doubled since late October. How much more upside is there?
A: Even at 42, we still see over the next five years that this stock can increase threefold. Why? Because we think very
simply that the revenues could be $1 billion in the next five to seven years. And the business model makes us very
comfortable that they can do it, at least [with] a 20% net margin. We think that net margin -- $200 million in the next five or
seven years -- will be capitalized [at] at least 20 times earnings, which is not heroic. That gets a $4-billion market cap. The
current market cap is $1.7 billion.