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To: Ross Dickie who wrote (3589)	12/14/1999 12:21:00 AM
From: 1st.mate	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4884

Is someone getting ready for news or what? canabrava.ca

To: Ross Dickie who wrote (3589)	12/14/1999 12:26:00 AM
From: Diamond Daze	Respond to of 4884

Well its pretty clear that our director Colin Ewing was one of the guilty parties that threw cold water on our parade. I suppose these are all options (for what I dont know). There may be two ways to look at that, one is that since he is a director of a mutual fund that he might not be able to recommend a portion of PVF be acquired... but if that were true he needs to sell the rest of his paper and more than likely resign off the board.... So my guess is he just blew off the paper, was there an EM twist here ? I do not know. As far as the stock being oversold, who knows but I got sneaking suspision that there is way more out than there is printed... As far as the trading patterns I agree it really is enough to make you sick...today it was closed down again on 2k buy one of four houses that has been playing a dirty little game. Prior to the news release the other day about 50k was laid put on the offer to squelch the little momo...it was there again today laid down the last 1/2 hour to squelch any momo that might occur due to some news that may be forth coming. JG sent her down to 43 on the open on 2k...clearly there is another motive to what I have seen and it truly is sickening...If you get up close to those offers you will see them quickly removed, in other words they have no intention of selling the paper. I would love to see some one with kahunas to walk up and take out the bid with a market order for 50k at .53 so they cant pull it...if I could I would,,,as we have bought it up before they pull it before we can get there...the only way to make them pay is to let them lay it in and place the order at the top of their layer and at that price (today it was .53)....DD

To: Ross Dickie who wrote (3589)	12/14/1999 12:28:00 AM
From: Yorikke	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4884

Ross, I have no doubt that the writer is being sincere and honest. I also think that the writer has access to people who most of us do not seek out. I put a lot of credence in what was written. BUT the question is how much is this person being used as an extension of the game which is already being played. If you put yourself close to information sources you also open yourself up to receiving (and distributing) information which is not verifiable. Secondly we see again that, as an extension of the game outlined by the poster, or in counter-point to it, long term believers are again in the market taking up the slack (read recent posts). Not with the enthusiasm which they have previously done in situations like this, but still in there buying. So like many times in the past, we hear the 'shorter' story and see dedicated believers buying as the price falls. Where would it fall but for a hand full of long term confirmed investors? The truth is that the Market is waiting on this story; and would be willing to let the price drop into the .30's. Just how far does one go in support of a major mainlined belief? How much money on a good bet supported by very 'so so' releases and a lot of back-ground chatter? I don't know. I've made a fool out of myself many times with this play and I find myself buying into the chatter and the dropping price. But I am hooked. No way out for me. Does Rory have the goods or not? You yourself have pointed out all the reasons to let that question go unanswered. All the dates are coming down to the wire. But the stars have been in similar alignment before; and nothing. Just some banal release and silence. Each of us has to wrestle with our own greed, fear and desperation on this one. Some of us are quite desperate. Losing here means a major set back, in fortune and self respect. As a result what we do, and or say, is not particularly rational or logical. What's my point? Baring a real release that blows it open we are going to drift. People are cleaning their closets of junk, and others are getting another fix of hope for their panicky souls. The disgusted and the desperate and trading shares. That's easy to see. What is going on under that won't be known till the gates fly open and the horses charge over the turf, Or...... die waiting for release. regards, Yorikke

To: Ross Dickie who wrote (3589)	12/14/1999 12:30:00 AM
From: 1st.mate	Respond to of 4884

Know him! Know the group! I believe! If you got questions, ask them! Ask exactly what you want to know. There are a lot of long timers that are now willing to post, will offer you the answears. I will even take a crack at it(LOL) The time is now! The time is right! I think you will see serious coin coming to play real soon. CNB opened its new web sight tonight and met with kennicott today. Things are falling into place now! I don't think that people are aware what is about to happen over the next few weeks! We are entering a party time!