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To: Neocon who wrote (66561)	12/14/1999 11:45:00 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Consider the source ... and rest easy. JLA

To: Neocon who wrote (66561)	12/14/1999 12:30:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

The "dreadful insinuation", I believe, was my asking whether you still administered corporal punishment to your child when he was an adolescent. You did post that you and your son "matched wills", and that "Men are more ruthless, as a rule, and therefore have an advantage in taming other men... " I thought it was a fair question, in light of the fact that you, yourself, made the following comments: Message 9988636 "One of the things that I have noticed over the years is that boys are boys long before they take a big testesterone hit during adolescence, so it is a good idea to give them a sense of who is boss early, or they will be an even bigger pain. Men are more ruthless, as a rule, and therefore have an advantage in taming other men... " siliconinvestor.com "It takes a lot of time: not just quality, quantity. Thanks...I am the one who stayed home with him, since I wanted to write, and I think having a male to match wills with may have helped with a boy." siliconinvestor.com "Who said anything about brutalizing anybody? I believe in moderate corporal punishment, a couple of spanks on the bottom when they are little, but that is not especially what I had in mind. Mostly, it is a matter of who gives up first. Woman are more inclined to be nice, men are more inclined to think that the discipline is important. Children test limits, boys are especially prone to doing so... "

To: Neocon who wrote (66561)	12/17/1999 11:04:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<Yes,I would imagine so....You know, my son is writing a school essay using me as his hero, for being there for him and teaching him things. He sprang it on me last night, the first draft. And yet, here I have to endure the most dreadful insinuations....>> Children will do almost anything to please their parents, because the parent's attention seems to ensure the child's survival (on an instinctual basis). There have been cases of children who were beaten and tortured by their parents where the children begged to stay with them even after they had come to the attention of authorities, even if the only attention the child got from the parent was the infliction of pain and humiliation. It must feel very good that your child believes you are his hero and have taught him things. However, his looking up to you like the alpha male of the den may even have something to do with the corporal way you established dominance over him. As far as everything he has learned from you, since children tend to parent like their own parents did if there is not some intervention, you have probably taught him to hit smaller beings to establish power over them. Way to go or something!