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To: Elmer who wrote (82938)	12/14/1999 5:15:00 PM
From: Scot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571973

Re: "and I should believe some cockamamy benchmark they throw up? Who cares about high priced RAMBO*? Didn't I just post some spec scores to you showing Athlon blowing away the Flopper?" SPEC scores are the industry standard and overseen by a SPEC committee. So you don't believe them even when posted by a pro-AMD vendor. Rinky dink websites run by pimple faced geeks are the authority you respect. Thanks for putting things into perspective. That significantly spins the issue. Yes, the benchmarks are an industry standard, but the "scores" are submitted by individuals. A committee reviews the submitted scores, but does not warrant their veracity. Anyone can license the software, run tests, and post their results on the SPEC website. If "[r]inky dink" websites license and authorize the software, who are you to say that the results are not valid? I mean, we can always argue that people are not complying with the SPEC system and other requirements, or even just lying...right? Here is the disclaimer for that data you keep posting: The results published by SPEC have been reviewed by the SPEC organization prior to publication. However, these are submissions by member companies and the contents of any SPEC reporting page are the submittor's responsibility. SPEC makes no warranties about the accuracy or veracity of this data. Please note that other results, those not appearing here and from non-member companies, are in circulation; by license agreement, these results must comply with SPEC run and reporting rules but SPEC does not warrant that they do. -Scot

To: Elmer who wrote (82938)	12/14/1999 5:58:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571973

Elmer, As a Compaq shareholder it's a little tough to get the bitterness out so excuse me on that one. (AV) OTOH...right now, any benchmarks with RAMBUS are a non-factor, IMHO. I have my doubts about too many people in their right minds paying a $grand a 128k stick for RDRAM so they can just bring the performance of a Flopper up to an Athlon on selected benchmarks. It makes no sense. Now if Intel can get a production worthy 800 MHZ chip for sale then kudos to them... As far as those "pimply faced kids". In a few years they will be making the decisions on what to buy for large corporations. Jim