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To: nihil who wrote (66683)	12/14/1999 8:02:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Well in our area there are programs that seem to attract great kids- whether they "make" them or just attract the best ones is an issue we could debate- but either way I want my kids in those programs- scouting and band are my favorites. The kids get to do LOTS of stuff in those programs- and they do the stuff with other kids, and they have the impression they are doing it on their own- but the parents put in tons of work behind the scenes to make everything happen. It is (as I imagine it) a huge safety net of parental hands, all clasped together, ensuring that the kids have the opportunity to excel and enjoy their activities. I could give you examples- if necessary.

To: nihil who wrote (66683)	12/14/1999 8:40:00 PM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 108807

If we want strong, independent, self-reliant kids, we might throw them in the street to take care of themselves, instead of smothering them with care HI nihil! I don't see overseeing and caring as being incompatible with raising self-reliant kids. Being thrown into the streets alone or sent off to sea is certainly not a requirement and I think might provide self-reliance but maybe leave a lot of emotional holes. It's CONTROL that I think you are objecting to (Mozart, Woods). Providing opportunities and choices, along with a certain amount of non-interfering protection (well- ok-sometimes we interfere) can also produce independent, confident children.