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To: Christine Traut who wrote (9438)12/17/1999 9:04:00 AM
From: William Peavey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9818
 
Hear! Hear! Christine

The following is from Roleigh Martin's listserv and encapsulates Gary North's present thinking:

<<Subj: [roleigh_for_web] Reality Check, #44 - Gary North covers scenario grades 5 on (IMHO)
Date: 12/16/1999 9:29:08 PM Eastern Standard Time From: Roleigh.Martin-1@tc.umn.edu (Roleigh Martin)
To: roleigh_for_web@egroups.com

Gary North has ranked himself a 10 on the Y2K scale however in his latest Reality Check he covers Y2K outcomes that in my estimation could be as low as a 5. He is using many "if" statements in this newsletter. It's an interesting take from someone who has been so less "iffy" in the past on Y2K.

He's given permission to recipients of this newsletter to pass it onto listservs.

By the way - my short paragraph appraisal of Gary North: despite whether you agree with his Y2K assessments or not, I can't think of any other Y2K writer who is more interesting or who has cataloged more organized links to Y2K raw data. He is both the librarian of Y2K and the populist gadfly of Y2K. Even the Naval War College gave tribute to Gary in that he has raised the potential downfall of Y2K better than any other researcher on the problem. On top of that, he brings an incredibly wide wealth of historical analogies, stories, etc., to bear on his analyses. Following Y2K would have been much more boring without Gary.

Roleigh X-From_: recon-request@cliffslanding.com Thu Dec 16 17:19 CST 1999 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:15:29 -0800 From: Gary North <ice@ballistic.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en To: "recon-list@cliffslanding.com" <recon-list@cliffslanding.com> Subject: Reality Check, #44 Gary North's REALITY CHECK Issue No. 44 December 16, 1999 TWO WEEKS TO GO Planes will not fall from the sky. That's because they will be on the ground. Nobody wants to fly. Airline after airline has cancelled its December 31/January 1 flights. Not enough demand. The best and the brightest say that y2k will be a non-event, but they are not booking flights. There is a lingering doubt about y2k. Nobody wants to talk about it.

According to a recent report, 25% of mutual fund money assets are now in cash. A friend of mine found this statistic cited on the December 14 Market Update & Commentary of the PIT BULL investment service (Henry Ford's). Ford thinks that Y2K will be a non-event. If brokers' phone lines are still open on January 3, he says, expect a wild boom, as this cash comes back into the stock market.

Is this really possible? A boom beginning on January
3? Well, if Y2K fears are really the main motivation behind a few percentage points of the supposed 25% of mutual fund assets that are in cash, it's possible.
Investors could decide that the worst is over; therefore, everything bad is over; therefore, "Buy!" But is Ford's assessment accurate?

Tony Sagami, one of the nation's leading experts in mutual funds, says that the cash component of stock mutual funds is at an all-time low. Stock fund managers are betting the farm on the bull. He thinks it's a risky bet at this stage of the boom. So do I.

So, where is the 25% being held? By whom? The latest data that I can find are for October. Money market funds had $1.3 trillion in assets. Total mutual fund assets were $6.2 trillion. The cash component was 21.7%. A year earlier, the respective figures were $1.2 trillion and $5.5 trillion, or 21.8% -- essentially the same. See:

ici.org This indicates that the public has decided to hold about 22% of its mutual fund assets in cash. This percentage may be a little higher, given the fact that some assets in the other types of funds are near-cash assets.

The question is: Will good news -- no meltdown -- by January 3 produce a mad dash to convert cash to stocks?
Have investors been so fearful of Y2K since late 1998 that they will unload T-bills and buy stocks on January 3?

In March, the nation's mild Y2K fever broke. Since then, there has been little public concern about Y2K. Yet the change in opinion by, perhaps, 2% of the population on the margin has not led to a measurable shift into stock mutual funds.

What I find difficult to believe is that there are tens of billions of dollars invested in short-term money- market funds that will be shifted into stocks in the first week of January because of reduced Y2K fears. To believe this is to believe that significant assets were moved out of stock mutual funds into money-market funds as a hedge against Y2K. I see no evidence of such shift, late 1998 to late 1999.

Are U.S. investors really worried about a major break in the U.S. economy as a result of Y2K? Where is the evidence? What I see is apathy on a massive scale.

If you are using the Ursa fund in the Rydex family of funds to short the market, you know you're positioned for trouble in January -- worse than expected. If we get only minor disruptions in the first week, we could get a market surge, but I do not see how this by itself would produce a sustained rally.

For maximum safety in digital fund investing, you should be in a money market fund on December 31. Shorting this market is for those who think that Y2K will be worse than expected -- my view. But in the first two weeks of
2000, if there is no major disruption, then marginal money could go into stocks.

Let's see how the final week in December goes. I think Y2K fears will push the stock market down. If these fears are intense, the rebound in January, if any, will not be spectacular. But if the stock market is moving up on December 29, you may want to move from Ursa to a money market fund for a few weeks.

HOW BAD, HOW SOON?

Fact: the fundamental problems of Y2K must be solved.
They have not been solved so far. There has been no testing. Fix-on-failure has become the watchword.

If the embedded chips collapse the system over the weekend, then electronic money will be at risk. You may be on the right side of the stock market transaction (short), but the institutions on the other side may not be able to meet the margin calls. You lose.

If things get by over the weekend, you could be on the wrong side, at least for a while. But I think the boom, if any, will not last long. The noise produced by Y2K will overwhelm systems.

My view is simple: my money should be in things, not digits. I am not in stocks for all of the conventional reasons, such as incredibly low earnings. This market is old, and it's into the irrational stage. People buy because they think they will make double-digit returns indefinitely. When everyone is an optimist, I remain on the sidelines. When a book predicting a Dow 30,000 finds buyers, I am a seller.

Y2K in such matters as oil imports, railroads (coal shipments), and international flights will still threaten the supply of goods even if phones are basically compliant and electricity stays up on January 1. The banks may not be into cross defaults in the first week of January.

Remember, it takes time to spread bad data. It takes time for bad data to be recognized as such by users, and then isolated to see where it's coming from. Good news on January 3 will mean only that the information-degradation effects have not had time to corrupt all systems.

We have to make decisions now. We face blind public optimism on all sides. We are swimming against the tide.
The best and the brightest think we are wrong. But they are also proponents of investing in stocks at the end of a long boom, when the dividend return in stock mutual funds is under 2%.

The Federal Reserve System is pouring in money -- the highest rate on record. It is doing this to get the banks over the Y2K hump. Everyone accepts this. Investors believe that electronic money can solve problems created by broken code. They look at the increase in money and conclude: "This is only for a few months." But the dislocating effects of monetary inflation are real, whatever the reasons justifying it.

When it stops -- and Greenspan will stop it if Y2K does not immediately cause problems -- then the slowdown will create negative ripple effects. The boom-bust cycle cannot be avoided forever. (Ludwig von Mises, HUMAN ACTION, chap. 20).

THE CONSTANT STREAM OF UNVERIFIED GOOD NEWS As far as any self-published document goes, almost every organization on earth is Y2K-ready. This is true of every government, too.

Most organizations are saying nothing -- a wise policy, I suppose. But those that say anything are optimistic.

As far as I can see, every government that has been singled out by the U.S. State Department as being behind has protested. All national governments are ready. It does not matter when they got started. They are all ready.

How? How did they do it? Where did they get the personnel?

What we are facing as decision-makers is a barrage of official reports that inform us that there is no Y2K problem in their domain. The problem is with The Other Guy Over There.

Within any industry, there is some trade association that speaks for most members. From these, we learn that only small organizations are facing Y2K problems. The big boys are on track.

As for testing, we hear almost nothing. A few tests suffice to provide a clean bill of health. There is nothing on parallel testing of systems over several months.

As for data exchanges, we hear almost nothing.
Extensive tests are nowhere visible. In the financial services industry, which is supposedly the most advanced in its preparations, there were a few minimal tests among a handful of the largest organizations a year ago. These are all that underlie the "no problem" announcement.

As for embedded chips, we hear only a few voices calling for extensive testing. We are told that this used to be a problem, but the problem was exaggerated. The 50 billion chips are mostly all right, except for one percent (500 million) or two-tenths of one percent (100 million).
Those failures will be minor. They will be fixed on failure. They can be re-set manually. As for the effects of 100 million failures, this is not worth discussing. As for how long it will take for certified technicians to fix
100 million failures, we are not told. No one asks. How many technicians are available to fix them? We are not told. I have seen no estimate.

And so it goes. The world is about to hit a digital wall, yet we are told that everything is at least 98% compliant. U.S. banks are 99.7% ready, the FDIC tells us.
Japanese banks are 100% compliant, up from none last February, the Japanese government says. Impossible? Of course. But no one in authority says this in public.

It takes an act of will, extended over weeks and months in the face of government propaganda, to withstand this stream of propaganda. It is difficult for anyone to resist this barrage of propaganda. Almost no one does.
What keeps me from becoming caught up in the optimism is this: I go on line every morning to post documents. Most of these documents do not verify the public's lack of concern. They may speak of 72 hours of problems, but I can still buy batteries at Wal-Mart. The public is not preparing for 72 hours of trouble.

Most people have made up their minds on Y2K. Most people believe it's nothing. Most of the others have never heard about it. So, we really are in the minority.

As I have said before, it's not the odds; it's the stakes. If you bet wrong, you literally could die. Even if you bet right, it's risky. If electrical power fails, either because of bad code or no fuel, then society falls.
I have never said that the power must fail. Rick Cowles, whose judgment I trust, thinks the grid will survive. But he says it will be erratic. Blackouts and brownouts will be common.

My view is simple: I want verified evidence that systems are compliant and tested. But I can't get this.
Neither can you. So, I must go on faith based on imperfect evidence. This leads me back to the extreme caution position. Why? Because the division of labor is digital, and the digits, as of today, are error-filled. The code is still broken.

How can people think that broken code will work as well as compliant code? How can they call this an information economy, and at the same time deny that incorrect information, worldwide, will create major disruptions? How can they cry out, "We can run it manually," when nothing has been run manually for a generation, and those technicians who ran things manually are long retired?

These are simple issues. They should raise a red flag. They do not raise even a yellow flag.

RED CROSS SHELTERS I spoke with a Red Cross official two weeks ago. He told me that if we get a no-water, no-electricity crisis for ten consecutive days, the Red Cross will simply collapse. The ratio of volunteers to staffers is over 40- to-one. The volunteers will go home to protect their families.

The typical Red Cross shelter is a high school gymnasium. It can hold fewer than 1,000 people. It must have electricity, flush toilets, and running water. How many high school gyms are there in your city? How many have signed an agreement with the Red Cross to house refugees? You don't know. I asked. It is probably fewer than half a dozen in a city of a million people.

People will have to stay in their homes. There will be no place to house them. The great threat is water. If they cannot flush their toilets, their lifestyle changes in a matter of hours. If the fire department cannot hook hoses up to functioning fire hydrants, fires will spread uncontrollably. A modern city without functioning fire hydrants is a tinder box.

Take away water for a week, and urban middle-class man's world ends. The public grasps none of this. People cannot conceive of a social threat to their supply of comfort, let alone their safety.

On December 10, we were warned in a press release jointly issued by the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Center for Y2K and Society that over half of U.S.
cities have water systems that are not compliant. Worse,
85% of sewer systems have yet to be remediated. Within hours, a press release from the American Water Works Association assured us that all of our large cities are compliant.

You must decide who is telling the truth. It's very hard to protect yourself with 15 days to go. You can buy bleach. You can buy a 55-gallon drum to run a roof drain spout into. But will you? It looks goofy. Your neighbors may ask why.

If it was mandatory for every water utility to get compliant, then why is any urban resident confident that his city's utility has completed remediation and testing?
Has he verified this? Millions have not. They trust the system. They are not interested in evidence. They are interested in avoiding change. The press release from the AWWA comforts them. Besides, most of them have never heard of the AWWA, nor do they think there is a problem.

If there were a fire that spread uncontrollably in a major city, where would the homeless be sent? It's winter.
They cannot sit around on park benches. What would the authorities do with them? College dorms would be commandeered. Then hotels/motels. But what if there is no water, which is the reason why the fires spread?

We do not think of these problems because they cannot be solved within our comfort zones. People assume them away. But how valid is the evidence by which they are assumed away?

"AM I DOING THE RIGHT THING?"

You have no doubt asked yourself this question more than once. Your answer is probably something like this:
"Well, I'm not willing to bet my life on propaganda. I have to do something to protect myself." So, you have reallocated your portfolio. You have moved from digital assets to non-digital.

Non-digital assets can be sold back (gold, silver), or spent (currency), or consumed directly (food storage), or used (tools). The market for non-digital assets is less highly developed. Transaction costs for selling are higher. But these assets will not lose as much of their value in an economic breakdown as digital assets will. The risk of owning them is lower.

Maybe you bought a water purifier. So, use it. You bought a sophisticated first aid kit. Learn how to use it.
You bought gold coins. You are now less dependent on a financial system based on promises of outfits that you know cannot be trusted.

You have moved from reliance on an extreme division of labor to a moderate one -- 1965-era, perhaps. You have lowered your electronic return, but you have increased your diversification and your safety.

You have done this rationally, examining evidence, possibly daily. Your critics have looked at almost no evidence, and they have continued to believe in an economy that produces supposedly low-risk stock market returns of
20% per annum.

The first phase of the worst-case scenario will be visible on January 1: a collapse of the grid. Markets will not reopen. By January 3, there will be no water in our cities. The embedded chips and bad code will have done their work. Anyone who says this cannot happen is kidding himself. The evidence is not there. We do not know what the systems that rely on chips will do. We do know what some of the chips will do: fail.

If we get through the weekend, then the debate moves to the domino effect: noncompliant small businesses, noncompliant suppliers, noncompliant banks, noncompliant everything else. Other systems will just get noisy: the busy signal phenomenon.

Then the spread of bad data will produce its effects.
The scary one is a cascading cross default of the financial industry: banks, mutual funds, commodity futures, and derivatives. Remember, the world is integrated. Defaults can take place outside of Canada and the U.S.

The best and the brightest do not believe any of this will happen. But they are not scheduling flights on December 31, either. They are hedging their bets.

I am hedging mine. It's just that mine are more comprehensively hedged. I regard the financial world as a large noncompliant airport. I do not intend to be on a plane scheduled for one.

You are probably hedged somewhere in between. Each person has a comfort zone, and is married to someone with a different one. Compromises must be made.

Ask yourself: Given the evidence you have read, is the case for Y2K optimism stronger than the case for pessimism?
You have read postings on my site and other sites. You have read newsletters. You have read press releases and reports based on them. One fact stands out: the code was broken all over the world in 1997. It has not all be fixed. Almost none of it has been systematically tested beyond rolling a date forward.

We are flying almost blind, but not so blindly as the general public.

The modern division of labor rests on digits. The deadline is fixed. The code isn't.

We have two weeks.

(Because of the short time remaining, I authorize you to forward this report to your mailing list.)

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Although laughingly referred to as "Scary" Gary by some, Gary North has helped me keep focused when the roaring bull tried its damnedest to distract me. But I did not renew my subscription to his Remnant Review this past October, figuring if he's right, he won't be able to send it. If he's wrong, I won't need it.

Bill



To: Christine Traut who wrote (9438)12/17/1999 11:44:00 AM
From: Christine Traut  Respond to of 9818
 
Back in the spring, I did a little news piece on a local TV channel in Louisville about Y2K. I was astute enough to enquire about the reporter's objectives for the story. One of the things that he mentioned was getting a 'visual' - an image that would catch people's attention.

I wonder if part of the problem with people taking Y2K seriously is that Y2K glitches will probably be quite undramatic - unvisual. People who are complacent want dramatic evidence - and there may be little dramatic evidence.

As an example, I recently had dinner with a friend who is a first rate professor/researcher at one of the best teaching hospitals in the country. They have a computer system that keeps track of certain patient results related to cardiac research. They have known, for some time, that this system will fail to work after 01/01/00. The 'contingency plan' is that the doctors will dictate results and someone will transcribe them - but there is still no system to put them into. The hospital hasn't had the budget to get a new one. My friend wondered what was going to happen to everyone's effectiveness when they could no longer easily analyze the research database.

This is an example of the type of system that is undramatic - not 'visual' on the surface - but could create an ultimately dramatic sluggishness in the day to day efficiencies that we have all come to expect.

Even if the most optimistic reports are true, we are talking 98% remediation of systems judged to be mission-critical by entities that are bothering to report.

Another vote of confidence for the dignified way in which Ed Yardeni (and Gary North in his own way) are sticking to their guns.

Christine



To: Christine Traut who wrote (9438)12/18/1999 2:33:00 PM
From: IngotWeTrust  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 9818
 
Christine, &Thread... I request a hearing for MY 172 Degree change on Y2K

First some heart housekeeping. I wish to publically apologize to the thread and to state without need for further explanation that I have privately sought forgiveness for my actions toward you, Christine Traut, woman to woman, for my behavior toward you, especially as my behaviors relate to Y2K matters. You have not provoked me in any way and yet who I treated you horribly. I do NOT know if my apologies will be accepted, and that is not the point. I simply had to do so privately, and did so earlier today.

As far as any of the rest of you lining up and waiting for your "apologies" I can't think of any of you even likely to make the honorable mention list, so keep on truckin'. I'm going to leave it at that.

The next post will have to be written later tomorrow, because I have obligations that require my time today in preparations for community and family Christmas celebrations, which are touched by a note of sadness wherein I'd like to honor my Dad who died Thanksgiving Morning.

Suffice it to this, thread...I have deliberately contacted my highest level of National Security contacts who operate so far above Clinton's head he only nods and does what he's told to do when they sign their collective names to an op plan. I've also contacted my sources within Alan Greenspan's private circle of intimates and have heard the same thing but from different voices that I've learned to trust in over 30 years of dealing with these types of elitists.

We will be allright during the transition into Jan 2000...it is not a delusion nor a childish sugar plum fantasy.

There will be problems but the electrical grid has been microscopically broken ALREADY and IN ADVANCE, so that cascading will not wipe out anyone for more than 6 hours at a time in order to protect other regions of the nation. The only unforeseen occurance is the baring nuclear reactor breakdowns of which there is still legitimate national security planning and concern on the highest levels.

These breaks have occured in time and underbudget, due to an incredible amount of People, and money and time and planning by some of our nations finest citizens for the good of all of us. And the electrical scenarios have been rehearsed and practiced until the response to any such emergency will be handled within that 6 hour period from furthers points of Northern Maine to the Jetties of Seattle.

The concern for national security within these 6 hour time windows is is extremely high, and with logical justification. They in those contact circles of mine know that SOMEONE single or multiples or are going to get through the net set to ensnare them. That is logical. Containment is the operative word, even if it is national restrictions on movement, via our mobility required until search and destroy is accomplished.

The rest of the world is not so prepared, a fact that should stun no thinking individual.

I can tell you this...after seeking out said contacts in the last several weeks, I can now sleep and am not a DOOMER any more. We will have problems but we will fix on failure, as it comes up, some things more of a priority than others, including rural water, sewage, hospital and emergency assistance. And the definition as to what is mission critical and what isn't still is debatable within the highest circles in our land. I personally am persuaded that what gores MY ox will not necessarily get fixed first or even on the 32nd cycle, but it will get fixed and there is abundant reason for hope, and for Yardeni's recession to hit us and hit us hard as an economy.

Like I said, it is a 172 Degree about face for me. The other 8 degress is to align myself with those who are watchful and vigilant and ready to act, reset, re-start, repair or reboot, regardless of whether it is water, electrical, phone or banking, or medical services. ANd yes, the banks will be open unless Jerk Clinton does something stupid, which I sincerely doubt he'll get away with.

His credibility is ZIP and those who work over HIS head know it, make no mistake about it. They have NO delusions whatsoever about his abilities in office or his supposedly private conduct outside his oval office. He will be contained if necessary as well, something that I find comforting frankly because I personally know some of those in charge, and Kosky is NOT one of them.

More later as I must run now and get some things done.

So, Have yourself a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, threaders, because I now know the reason for my about face

O/49r