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To: Neocon who wrote (67173)12/18/1999 2:15:00 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Sadly, I think it's already happened Neo.

When I volunteer at the local pre-school invariably one of the young boys (who's father has recently gone to sea) will want to snuggle up to me. It's very natural for a young boy of 4 or 5 to miss his father and want to play in that sort of rough-house but loving way with another man.

I know I've felt uncomfortable at times hugging or snuggling with a strangers child on my lap because of all the intrusions by government agencies such as CPS (Child Protection agency) and the horror stories I've witnessed over the last decade. So far, I've tried to fight these thoughts and take the risk that parents in our area aren't fenatical fearmongers regarding men and young boys hugging. But I'll admit, it's not easy sometimes.

I imagine many men feel the same way at parks and such when young girls and boys come and want to play with them.

So, we have already lost some love as a society because of swinging the pendulum too far and giving away our constitutional freedoms to agencies with virtually no watchdogs over them, such as CPS.

Michael



To: Neocon who wrote (67173)12/18/1999 2:54:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Most people here distinguish between the two- I certainly do. But a few of us who DO distinguish still don't see the efficacy of swatting. It really only communicates irritation. It is a generic response, and although it is EASY and instinctive, that doesn't mean it is the best one. I question what it teaches. I do NOT call people who spank their kids moderately through a diaper abusive- but it is problematic for me, I can't deny it. When I swatted one of my kids on the hand for an electrical cord violation I felt horrible. And I got duck tape and taped all the cords in the house so I didn't run into the situation again. Partly that swat was MY fault for not having the foresight that cords would be fun to play with- and all the no no no's in the world couldn't communicate that it should not be done.




To: Neocon who wrote (67173)12/18/1999 4:37:00 PM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
<<If we lumped in real sexual
abuse with physical displays of affection, we would have people claiming that touching
our children puts them at risk for neuroses, and Christine asking why we think that
children are our property, whom we can embrace at will.......>>

That is an absurd statement, and makes me have less respect for your other arguments, some of which are quite logical.