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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (28621)	12/19/1999 11:12:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

Have fun with this one: junior.apk.net Happy Holidays, Nancy

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (28621)	12/19/1999 2:27:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

<<<The anger you are both posting makes me more comfortable with non believers as well for it is not the fruit of the Spirit>>>> Thus cries a hypocrite! If you want to make a difference then make some public apologizes for your husbands constant slandering of the Christians on the threads. If you cannot or will not do that then you will remain a hypocrite. Chris

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (28621)	12/20/1999 8:49:00 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Nancy .. when someone comes along and has honest doubt and asks a question.. even if he is in a mocking spirit because he is unsaved I don't mind fishing around to see if perhaps the man is being called of God and I do sincerely hope that they may be elect. However when someone comes along and just wants to scorn and scoff; and when they put forth a "learned" objection to the scriptures and I prove to them that their objection is based on misinformation etc. and then they just answer back as a fool. Ignore the answer with a message like this: "Babble Babble Babble" Then I am sorry Nancy.. but they have proven themselves to be either unripe fruit ( elect ).. or a scoffer looking to hone his skills. The teachings of the Bible are not like most churches teach. They do not inform the Christian to "love people into the kingdom" ===== We witness the truth and trust the spirit. ===== Sometimes the Truth speaks like this: Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Proverbs 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. Tell me Nancy does the Bible contradict itself with these scriptures? I'm sorry that you think I owe every dog or swine that comes into my life something other than what I have offered. I do not for a moment buy into thinking as you have previously posted that we are only allowed to strongly rebuke "religious hypocrites" because that is all you see Jesus doing. If you study rather than the "who" Jesus talked to like that and rather study "how they first spoke to him" then you might be able to also fit the scriptures I just quoted into your thinking. Ask a foolish question - get a foolish answer. The Bible does not say "religious fools only" Indeed the Bible uses the word 'fool' for those who do not believe in God at all. Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. So if you have already granted that Jesus did not bend over backwards to reach those who approached Him sinfully. Then why find fault with my witness. I have not lied to anyone. I know you have found an affection for Mark, that may be very wrong of you. I do not hate the man but he will go to hell as one of those whom Jesus hates because he does not repent. He preaches that all men will go to heaven.... Nancy, what did Paul say about that kind of thing? Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Would you not then include even the apostle Paul in your rebuke if he too were here talking to Mark? Your post would be to Brian, Santiago, and Paul the apostle. I do not take lightly what I am saying to you. I know this is difficult for most people to understand but if you love those who are unsaved more than we the elect of God who have the Mind of Christ then you are in grave sin and becoming even an enemy of Christ. You must not love the world thinking you do Christ a service. I am sorry for this note but someone has corrupted your understanding if you think that we love our enemies with anything other than the truth. I do not personally hate Mark nor any others who post. I have some men do unbelievable wicked things.. such as booking on other chat lines and using my name to get me banned from speaking there and posting wickedness to slander my witness. I find it difficult to operate when even Christians fight me. You people are so afraid that Christ is powerless to save! Do you know how many souls Jesus will lose ? ======= NONE ======= All the sheep are bought and paid for at the cross...they can not be lost even if I do a terrible job of witnessing. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. When Jesus said "Come unto me all you who are heavy laden... Heavy laden with what... scoffing ..Pride... disrespect..? Jesus is at that point talking to people who are already convicted of sin by the Holy Ghost not some bastard calling Jesus a HOMO! The same Christ who said what you said also said this: Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, I asked Alan to tell me what that verse means.... Can you not answer a question or am I already tried and found guilty?? Unless I fit your image of witnessing am I wrong without a second thought? I believe I am a fair witness. I am willing to admit that I am sometimes pretty rough. If I am too rough that is a judgement call that I can assure you I will never get perfect nor you. Some of you think we should never get rough at all even with those who act like swine. Do we misrepresent even God by never showing any indignation with such corrupt behavior? I do not share the "spirit of this season either" so if you high on that stuff you will likely really resent me because I am my normal self all year round! I do not share the Jesus loves everyone and we are all believers for the next 2 weeks nonsense... I will also tell you that I do not think that this season is something that "Helps us witness" it is a false witness that causes even the wicked to falsely assure themselves that they are alright with Christ because they gave to the food bank. This Unholy Popish Roman Mass called X-Mass is of the devil! It is the time of year where someone who says all year long that they do not believe in god can act and pretend that they are alright with God if he exists... Come to think of it... it is the same gOSPEL that Mark preaches. It is false and a lie.. It comes from the Father of Lies. "Peace on Earth" or: Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" Peace on Earth" or: Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. The peace that Jesus brought was to "HIS" not the whole "damned" world. People accuse me of concentrating on the "negative".. I am forced to speak about the negative more than I would because of people who insist on always "ignoring" anything the least bit negative. People will go to hell as evil doers. That is not pleasant but Jesus preached it more than anyone else in scripture. Nancy...try to see at least this if nothing else... Every time Salvation is wrought - with it - is Damnation wrought also. The promise to Eve A bruised heel ( Salvation ) A crushed head ( damnation ) Noah saved the whole world damned. Israel saved and Egypt damned Rahab saved Jericho damned The thief on the right and the thief on the left. Elect saved the rest are damned..... That is GOD's WAY. If you desire to preach or teach differently than I you have that power. It may not be right or you may be witnessing falsely but you do indeed have that power. In fact if your convinced I am wrong you owe the world the truth. ( I know you are limited but not Alan ) I do not believe that I am witnessing falsehood. I believe that I have judged rightly. I am not angry because I have been assaulted or despised, in fact Jesus promised me that I would be persecuted. I'm not bleeding nor starving..words do little. Jesus promised me that if I witnessed what He witnessed I would be HATED even as He was hated. I really don't think I am out of line. I think your judgement of me is disposed to your concept of what witnessing is. Do you believe that "all witnessing" is to be unto salvation. I have already pointed out that with Salvation comes also Damnation. Some men are called to be softened and some are called to be hardened. If they are hardened are they to blame me for my "style"? Surely they will... but is salvation merely a matter of persuading men? I am a means not the source. The Holy Spirit saves. I am hear to tell the truth to whoever listens. If they are not listening I am not wasting my time and cyber ink. If conversion is just intellectual persuasion then Jesus did a terrible job of witnessing because He wouldn't even stop confusing people by using parables. The Apostles understood that Jesus dealt with men differently. I hope you can too. If you think I called something wrong fine... but you and Alan have every opportunity to do a better job. Can you imagine me telling one who was heavy laden with sin and suffering under the conviction of having offended God to "get lost"? Come on. Let's look at all the posts. Luke 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him. Take care this does not become you concerning those who witness in Christ's stead. Men reaped what they sowed from Jesus: Matthew 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Who among us would ever say " I did a perfect Job of Witnessing?" We depend upon the Lord to save His elect. Jesus spoke a PERFECT witness... even when He said this: Matthew 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. Honestly... would you not have sent Jesus a post :-}