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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (83741)12/20/1999 10:59:00 PM
From: Ali Chen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572629
 
<How is AMD going to deal with power issues at or above 1GHz?>

Why such a concern?

What is, in your opinion, an acceptable power
dissipation limit for a 1 sq.cm chip?

- Ali



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (83741)12/20/1999 11:13:00 PM
From: Dan3  Respond to of 1572629
 
Re: How is AMD going to deal with power issues at or above 1GHz?

The "burning" question is: how is Intel going to get its 600MHZ Itanium to dissipate less than 200 watts?

:-)

Imagine an 8 way machine with 900MHZ Itaniums! - Hey, IBM, where are all the plumbers that used to work on your mainframes?

Just as IBM moves to air cooled mainframes, Intel starts shipping water cooled departmental servers!

Dan



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (83741)12/21/1999 12:53:00 AM
From: Charles R  Respond to of 1572629
 
TWY,

<How is AMD going to deal with power issues at or above 1GHz?>

I do not know. But, to be sure, I did not even know that a problem existed. Could you expand on your thinking? Keep in mind that Cu interconnects, halving the L2 cache and integration should reduce the power dissipation significantly from the current levels. It would be interesting to watch if 1G Thunderbird will consume anymore power than original 600MHz Athlon.

Chuck

P.S.: Also, my understanding is that modern processors tend to use more aggressive power management as the core matures so there may be some additional benefits along the way.



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (83741)12/21/1999 1:13:00 AM
From: Mani1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572629
 
THE WATSONYOUTH Re <<How is AMD going to deal with power issues at or above 1GHz?>>

Assuming no core enhancement or process shrink it should still be manageable. It may require thicker heat spreader and longer fins on the heat sink. Maybe even a copper heat spreader or faster fans. In my estimation, at most, it will add about $6.00 (for the OEM) in thermal management cost.

Mani