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To: Father Terrence who wrote (67641)	12/21/1999 12:42:00 AM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Terrible Terrance -- you're back! Visiting our planet for the irrational holiday season (excellent time to stamp out religious claptrap and more) or just refueling the ship and picking up a Happy Meal? In your absence, I conducted a poll and you were voted "SI Poster Most Likely To Actually Be James Carville." Congratulations! There was no prize. M

To: Father Terrence who wrote (67641)	12/21/1999 10:33:00 AM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

You dropped in and I missed you! I am desolated. Perhaps a better word than "irrational" is "extra-rational." Rationality is extremely important, but it is not the only access to all reality, dear. As you know damned well, there is more to life. Merry Christmas!

To: Father Terrence who wrote (67641)	12/21/1999 10:54:00 AM
From: lorrie coey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Try to stay Objective... Randianism [System/Movement in philosophy] Randianism is the system of ideas promulgated by the novelist-philosopher Ayn Rand, who also called Her philosophy Objectivism- w/a capital 'O'. In addition to the standard objectivist idea that reality is what it is despite any emotions and beliefs one might hold to the contrary, Rand further specified the objective in her philosophy and especially in her epistemology by drawing a contrast between the intrinsic, the subjective, and the objective. "The Father" "In God We Trust"...or, "The" good faith and credit. Intrinsicism holds that abstractions such as truth and good and beauty exist in reality, utterly divorced from human activity and evaluation; we discover what is true or good or beautiful by means of direct intuition or non-rational insight regarding these intrinsic abstractions. "The Son" "He among you who has not sinned, cast the first stone..." Subjectivism, in its most extreme and consistent form, holds that reality has nothing to do with the matter, and that truth and good and beauty are literally in the eye of the beholder — there is no basis for these abstractions in the world and there are no objective standards for human abstractions and evaluations... [this leads directly to relativism, either of the individualistic or the social variety.] "The Holy Ghost" In contrast to both of these theories, Objectivism holds that truth and good and beauty are neither solely "out there" in reality nor determined only by human desires and beliefs, but that both reality and humanity have something to add to the processes of abstraction and evaluation. Central to objectivism is the insight that human beings have a conceptual nature — one that is involved in the processes of thinking, choosing, acting and feeling as a response to objective reality, which exists outside of the mind and retains its identity no matter what human beings think or feel.