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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (83767)	12/21/1999 12:20:00 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572657

How will AMD deal with the heat dissapation of >1 GigHhz? 1. Copper 2. .13u front end ?

To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (83767)	12/21/1999 12:23:00 AM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572657

The watsonyouth, re:"AMD power consumption" I suspect that the 0.18 micron parts will run up to 900Mhz from AMD using Al. With dresden and cu process AMD has optimized the transisitors even further and also reduced RC paths by using copper allowing lower power. My best guess for dresden/cu/new0.18 process will max out at maybe 1.2Ghz keeping power down rapidly. Remember AMD AThlons currently use external Cache rams qhich are very power hungry - once they go on chip power gets reduced as well. regards, Kash

To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (83767)	12/21/1999 1:14:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1572657

TWY - RE: "Unless they lower gate and wiring capacitance considerably in their .18um process, the power will increase well beyond the max power they experienced at .25um and will approach 70W at 1 GHz or above." According to the slides from AMD's Analyst Conference, Austin .18 has a gate length of ~120nm and Dresden will have a gate length of 100nm. Does that fit what you say about the gate needing to be lowered? The slides can be seen in the presentation by Dr. Seigle here - amd.com Is it difficult to lower wiring capacitance?