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To: paul feldman who wrote (57241)12/21/1999 9:32:00 PM
From: hdrjr  Respond to of 95453
 
How can Ng go down from here in the immediate future? APA numbers will be as significant as last weeks and the weeks before. Eventually storage cannot be ignored.

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To: paul feldman who wrote (57241)12/21/1999 9:44:00 PM
From: Frank  Respond to of 95453
 
Paul-- I share a lot of your frustration--it is a difficult situation to see just about every investment rule we were taught broken before our eyes. Yet, I remind you many of us did well earlier in the year e.g. Oei from 4 to 12 and tcms from 2 to 7. These were great runs and only two of many. For instance, I hold a number of stocks I expect to at least double--glbl,iir,oii,nbl etc.---if my assumptions have any validity. And that is the bed (and bet) I made. If they do double or triple I will have gains typical of the high techs in which I have invested. I guess what I am trying to say is let's not blame ourselves for making rational decisions like expecting a normal winter. We all used logic and data-- I just cannot do it any other way and I suspect you can't either. Maybe I am whistling past the graveyard but I truly believe the numbers will eventually prevail and the scientific method will win in the end-- Frank




To: paul feldman who wrote (57241)12/22/1999 5:07:00 AM
From: Crimson Ghost  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
Wednesday, December 22, 1999
Last updated: 00:14 EST

Oil & Gas News

POLL - Oil price to stay
sturdy next year, but Q2
dip

By KERM YERMAN

High-flying oil markets will shore up
average prices next year despite a dip
following the planned end-March expiry of
output curbs, a Reuters survey found.

Analysts and consultants raised their
forecast for average Brent crude prices next
year by more than one dollar to $18.56 a
barrel from a September projection of $17.34,
the survey found.

That would represent a modest rise from a
likely 1999 average of about $18.00.

The survey of 19 specialists showed Brent peaking at $23.61 in the fourth
quarter of this year before slipping to an average $22 in the first quarter of next
year.

Experts see a further $3.58 a barrel fall to $18.42 in the second quarter after
year-long producer curbs by OPEC and some non-OPEC producers expire at
the end of March at a time when global demand traditionally slips.

Some saw a slide below $18.00 in the second quarter, possibly to levels of
$16.50 last seen in June of this year.

"The more overheated the market is this year, the worse it is going to be next
year," said Geoff Pyne, an OPEC watcher and analyst at Standard Bank in
London.

MARKET LOOKS TO OPEC FOR A SOFT LANDING

"The pressure is getting there for OPEC to organise a softlanding approach,"
said Heather Rowland, an analyst at Warburg Dillion Read in New York.

Brent last week touched a post-Gulf war high of $26.15, boosted by OPEC
restraint, good northern hemipshere winter demand and a rapidly draining of
global stockpiles of spare oil.

Traders said the market was keeping a close watch on how the Organisation
of the Petroleum Exporting Countries planned to ward off a price collapse in
the second quarter next year after planned curbs of more than four million
barrels per day run out.

OPEC oil ministers have said they see no reason at the moment to release
more oil onto the market and they will decide future output policy at a meeting
at the end of March.

But some big producers have signalled they will be ready to help out sooner
than that if prices skyrocket in the event of a prolonged and unusual shortfall in
world supply this winter.

A FURTHER BRIEF PRICE SPIKE IS POSSIBLE

Analysts do not rule out another price spike but say this is unlikely to be
prolonged.

"This is the tightest squeeze since 1973 and could spell trouble before March.
Something has to give if oil stocks dive below 1996 levels," said Pyne.

Experts said a rally could occur amid a supply void created by a demand
spike in a harsh northern hemisphere winter and any potential supply trouble,
in particular from a volatile Iraq.

"We can't rule out another brief run up but I don't think major oil exporters
want to see oil prices above the high 20s for long," said industry analyst
George Beranek from Petroleum Finance Company in Washington.

Some experts said OPEC should already start phasing in an increase in oil
supplies. "To address the supply and demand imbalance, OPEC would need to
phase in the increase of oil supply by half a million a day over four (monthly)
phases," said John Toalster, an analyst at SG Securities.

Analysts say OPEC is sensitive to the risk of deflating high prices by
boosting flows, a mistake it made at a meeting in Jakarta in 1997 when it set
higher output quotas as Asian demand was collapsing.

SOME IN OPEC MIGHT CONSIDER EASING CURBS

But a handful of analysts say that in the current tightening market some
OPEC producers could consider easing supply quotas before March.

"We are expecting other producers, like Saudi Arabia, to start considering
raising output, and strategic inventories may also be released to supply the
shortfall (in the event of a long price spike)," said Mike Barry, an energy
consultant at Energy Market Consultants.

Prices could also feel pressure from the release after the new year of oil
inventories built up as a precaution for Y2K problems or the release of
emergency stockpiles by the International Energy Agency (IEA) or the United
States.

Some analysts argue OPEC compliance with its output curbs may slip as
members, tempted by high prices, start pumping more oil -- even if there is no
formal decision to do so.

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