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To: Edwarda who wrote (68026)	12/22/1999 1:27:00 AM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Edwarda, I don't think that most people are aware of the origin of the holidays, and that is why I bring it up at this time of year. Nobody gives a shit if I bring it up in June. Del

To: Edwarda who wrote (68026)	12/22/1999 1:43:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I think all this holiday stuff is a matter of perception, Edwarda. Because America is a mostly Christian country, the predominant holiday being celebrated the last week in December appears to be Christmas. If you were a pagan person, however, you would be celebrating the holiday that has ALWAYS been celebrated at this time, the Solstice, called many names in different languages, but always celebrating the symbolism of the shortest day of the year, and then the rebirth of the sun. Since Christianity has only been in existence for 2000 years, from a pagan point of view the Christians have glommed onto the pagan holiday, and are maybe trying to usurp it. Many Christians feel that the holiday now belongs to them, and any mention by non-Christians that in the continuum of man's experience on earth the Christians have only joined a party that was already going on, makes Christians feel very uncomfortable. So if pagans are not always being asked to concede the Solstice, it certainly can feel that way.