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To: Jamey who wrote (28794)	12/24/1999 7:13:00 AM
From: haqihana	Respond to of 39621

James, the anger of Jesus was directed at the Pharisees and Saducees, not the Jewish people in general. Surely you could see the difference, if you really cared about the teachings of Jesus. It is obvious that you do not.

To: Jamey who wrote (28794)	12/24/1999 8:32:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Santiago, James have you seen your 9 year old son with an AK47 rifle in his face while he is crying and begging for his life? Then the man tells the police he is Jewish scum and deserved to die. Can anyone think this is the fruit of the Lords Spirit. Or in L.A. the shooting of a 5 year old. Like it or not these men said the exact same things Emile says and you have supported. When Emile heard what happened to me and my sons, without information, he accused me of lying and said you Jews would have that all over the news if it were real (It was on CNN but I kept our names out of it). Then he said it was probably nothing just a little target practice. How would he feel if it were his children? This cold and mean attitude can not be blamed on his family or where he grew up. It comes from bad doctrine period I have seen you change from a warm and kind friend to a person that would support the horrible things Luther said. It is the fruit of bad doctrine. Nancy

To: Jamey who wrote (28794)	12/24/1999 9:06:00 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 39621

Santiago, the recent posts about Luther's "On the Jews and Their Lies" were prompted by Emile's recommendation of that work as a valuable resource that all Christians should read to learn about Jews. In response to that recommendation, quotations from that work were posted by myself and Nancy Markoff to demonstrate the work's extreme bigotry. Other information was provided to show that Luther's work provided a source of intellectual, spiritual, and propaganda support for the Nazis as well as for present-day white supremacist and anti-Semitic bigots. This is challenging "facts", Santiago. You've read passages from Luther's work which show that Luther called on Christians to burn Jew's homes, places of worship, and scriptures, to rob them of all their possessions, to deprive them of the right of any religious expression even to the point of forbidding them to use the word God. This is enough information to make a judgment whether the work is 1) a call to violent action based on religious bigotry, or whether it is 2) a valuable resource which all Christians should read to learn about Jews and Judaism as Emile said. If Emile is proven wrong about any of his facts about Judaism then I will apologize for trusting him. What else can one possibly do to prove Emile's recommendation of Luther's book was wrong? Ask yourself how many Christians there are in Israel based in the number of practising jews and Atheists now living in Israel. You might be surprised if you get an unbiased count. Yes, Christians in Israel are a minority. They are outnumbered by Jews, Moslems, and the non-religious. I have more news for you. A majority of the world's population is not Christian. For example, most of the population of Malaysia is Moslem. Most of the population of Thailand is Buddhist. Should Christians be hostile to Malays or Thais as well?