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To: Grainne who wrote (68599)	12/26/1999 12:42:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Christine, two questions before I present an exerp of the study you loud as proof of scientific evidence. 1. Have you actually read the study done by the Canadian outfit? 2. Have you ever done a DOE or been involved in one? Here is an exerp I found.....And just to be overly-fair, let me take everything they say in the article to be true. So let's take a look at it..... Canadian study links spanking to psychiatric disorders By Vanessa Thomas, Reuters, October 5, 1999 ------------------------------------------------------------ TORONTO, Oct 5 (Reuters) - Children spanked by their parents are twice as likely to develop drug and alcohol problems in adulthood, according to a Canadian study released on Tuesday. The study found that those who were spanked or slapped had increased rates of anxiety disorders, anti-social behavior and depression. But the authors of the survey of 4,888 adults in Ontario were quick to add that once spanked a child wouldn't automatically develop problems. ``Not everyone who is spanked or slapped (as a child) goes on to develop a disorder,' said Dr. Harriet MacMillan, who developed the study with five other researchers at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. Their study, published on Tuesday in the Canadian Medical Association Journal, is believed to be the largest of its kind in the world. The researchers based their findings on the responses of adults, ages 15 to 64. Of the respondents who were slapped or spanked occasionally, 21 percent developed anxiety, 7 percent suffered from major depression, 13 percent had an alcohol problem, and 17 per cent developed drug abuse or an anxiety disorder. First question: What are the percentages from a random sample of the population, discounting the question related to spanking? Do you know? Second question: What are the percentages from respondents who reported no spanking at all? Do you know? ``It is likely that some, but not all (respondents), are at risk for developing a disorder,' she said. ``But since I can't predict who will develop a disorder, the risk should be avoided by practicing alternative forms of discipline.' About 70 to 75 percent of Canadian parents spank their children, according to previous studies. But 41 percent of those surveyed were ``rarely' spanked or slapped as children, while 34 per cent said ``sometimes', 21 per cent said ``never' and 6 per cent responded ``often'. Can the study explain this discrepancy? Seems rather large to me. But spanking is much more common in society than the data indicates, because kids are mostly frequently spanked between the ages of 3 and 4, and that is too early for most adults to remember, MacMillan said. Possibly, but where is the evidence to back up this assumption? She hopes her findings will encourage parents to avoid spanking as a disciplinary tool. Why should an unbiased team hope for a change in social practices from one study? It's pretty obvious that we have a study on a crusade, or at least one with a goal in mind. Anyone who does serious research knows that having a bias can lead to degraded objective scientific analysis The Toronto-based legal-aid clinic, Justice for Children and Youth, is launching a constitutional challenge against spanking. It looks like they could have conducted a biased study in order to win a constitutional court case to me? "The study reinforces what parents need to hear - spanking is is not good for children and parents need to modify their behavior, said lawyer Cheryl Milne, who is leading the case scheduled for early December. More bias exposed. Michael