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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (68727)	12/26/1999 5:09:00 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Lizzie -- There you go again! Stating a "fact" without the first bit of evidence. FWIW -- My son is a teacher/vice principal in a private school My son-in-law is a teacher in a public school Two of my life-long "best friends" are PS teachers Many of my more casual friends and acquaintances are teachers. Almost all of these people live and work in LA, NYC or Tokyo -- not exactly low rent districts. The money's not all that bad. And, there are plenty of opportunities for the enterprising to make more money (tutoring, consulting, summer school). ALL the teachers I know (x those in Japan) own their own homes, drive SUVs and the rest of that middle class stuff). I have known several women to leave the profession -- all due to personal family reasons. I know ONE guy who left the profession (for more money - he thought). He came back in two years and is darn glad he did. The only problems I ever hear mentioned are political posturing, incompetent and self-serving administrators, too much interference with what's taught and the fact that some schools let the kids run wild. Oh, and the BIG ONE -- absolute paranoia that some kid will completely destroy their life by alleging some kind of inappropriate behavior. The problem I would add is -- the education establishment and certification process freeze a lot of competent and willing help out of the system. I oppose giving the public schools one more dollar until they demonstrate the ability to manage the ones they already have. Hope Santa stuffed your stocking with everything you were hoping for - Mike

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (68727)	12/26/1999 6:57:00 PM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Lizzie, I am not going to sound as strong a note as Michael M. However, on what basis do you make this statement? The two teachers whom I know well enough to speak for left the public school system because of 1) what they both characterized as a bureaucracy more concerned with its own self-perpetuation than with education and 2) a growing fear for their own physical safety. Both went to teach at parochial schools for less money.