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To: greenspirit who wrote (68797)	12/27/1999 12:07:00 AM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

<<Liz, you obviously didn't grow up in D.C. and attend public schools in the 70's. My perception is the real decline happened when bussing was forced upon the system.>> I don't think there is much to be gained by comparing the situation in California to any other. We have dropped in per pupil funding all the way to 49th, right in front of Mississippi. There is no doubt at all that California's public schools used to be excellent, and now they are just horrible. While it might be interesting to discuss bussing as an issue on its own, the rapid disintegration of California's schools was due to Proposition 13-related funding loss, not to bussing at all. But perhaps you could explain what bussing had to do with the deterioration you mention in Washington DC schools?

To: greenspirit who wrote (68797)	12/27/1999 4:50:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

You would think that. Let me tell you a different experience. When my oldest son first attended school in 1966 in Urbana, IL, he (and all other kids in the faculty and student housing area in which we lived) were bused in to attend the M. L. King, Jr. School, north of the tracks, in the Negro section of town. About one-third of the kids were from the neighborhood, and the others from all around the town. About two thirds of the children in the school were children of Ph.D.'s. About half were international. Most of the parents pitched in to help the schools. King School became and remains (I understand) a remarkably successful school. QED. Your theory is junk. If you trace the decline in school performance to busing, perhaps you should go back to your beloved statistics books and reexamine multicollinearity. You will see with nonexperimental data, that you cannot unequivocally partition variance among intercorrelated variables. You opinion obviously doesn't matter.