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To: Goldbug Guru who wrote (8378)	12/28/1999 4:02:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 9798

Well, what about those who bought into the hype and lost half of their investment. That's not a question, it's a statement. Now, you've pointed out that Red Hat has real revenue problems of its own. Kinda throws cold water on Cowpland's latest claims of future riches, doesn't it? Oh, now I get it! You're here to support the CFO's resignation, linking it to stupidity of touting revenues that will never materialize. If Red Hat is the top of the Linux food chain then where does that leave Corel? Keep in mind that Corel doesn't have their own distribution, they sell a stripped down version of Debian. Emphasis on sell because you can get Linux all over town for nothing. Furthermore, we've seen Corel work its magic with Linux. Do you really expect me to invest in another failed training program for their developers? I don't think so. I don't know about the value of their stock, but I will take Red Hat any day of the week over some blowhard with a shrink-wrap machine trying to hawk somebody else's work product.

To: Goldbug Guru who wrote (8378)	12/28/1999 10:24:00 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 9798

Gold, Reading between the lines. Erick Raymond is the Minister of Properganda for the Open Source (Linux) movement. Eric was interviewed by Amazon.com. So he did not mention corl or applix. What he did say is. Amazon.com: Your audience has considerably broadened since the original publication of the essay (now that you are meeting with CEOs, CTOs, and CFOs). Are there any Fortune 500 companies stepping up and becoming evangelists for the open-source movement? What type of companies, say within the next five years, do you think will make the greatest strides toward implementing open-source software alternatives? Raymond: Open-source evangelism from Fortune 500 companies is happening big-time--..... I expect the companies to tip next will be the ones that have the highest costs of failure associated with software outages..... badly, exposing them to large and unnecessary business risks starting with the obvious cost of downtime and finishing with the unobvious but much greater problem of being at the wrong end of a monopoly lock-in. What's happening now is that big outfits like Reliance and Burlington Coat Factory in the U.S. are waking up to this. Burlington Coat Factory.... Redhat and Applix given Linux Jounal 1999 Solution of the year. What else did Eric say????? Amazon.com: You state on your home page at Tuxedo.org that, "The Red Hat folks have an enlightened policy about sending free copies to Linux contributors, and I like their product, so I'm generally running their latest version." What are your feelings about the other distributions of Linux such as Debian, SuSE, Mandrake, etc.? How do these other distributions rate? Do you believe that Red Hat will ultimately be the best choice for Linux service? Raymond: I'm sure Red Hat will be knocked off its perch someday; markets are like that. I'm completely cool with the other distributions (well, except for being mildly annoyed with the Debian crowd for clinging to an incompatible installable-package system). Corl is based on Debian... incompatible installable-package system.... In several discusions I've had with Linux users, the guess is that Corl has it's own distribution because it's Wine and other strategic implementation focus require that kind of control to assure that applications install and work correctly. Is corl looking for a kind unobvious of monopoly lock-in???? ---------------- full interview. amazon.com Oh yeah at my watman.com I also mentioned bluetooth as a wireless technology. I'm still investigating companies positioned to benefit. duhhh.... Today's news. biz.yahoo.com Applix iEnterprise Supports Wireless Application Protocol -WAP- for its iCRM Suite of e-Business Solutions Tom Watson tosiwmee. PS Eric Raymond has called for a boycott of Amazon to protest their enforcement of their 1click software patent. I just suggest you use Amazon to find the book you want and then go to buy.com and pay a lot less. But Amazon has good stuff to find what you want and buy.com has a price that is usually better than free shipping.