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To: fut_trade who wrote (81318)12/28/1999 11:35:00 AM
From: fut_trade  Respond to of 86076
 
Nasdaq Comp is testing 4000!



To: fut_trade who wrote (81318)12/28/1999 11:36:00 AM
From: KeepItSimple  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86076
 
>So now what happens to the big increase in Money Supply/Adjusted
> Monetary Base created by the Fed?

Unfortunately, the Fed has been giving the economy an ever increasing dose of heroin, in order to keep the economy from going through withdrawl. Great strategy!

The problem now is, our economy is simply an addict with a much greater appetite for heroin. If the supply is removed, the withdrawls now will cause fatal convulsions, instead of just a moderately painful period of shakes.

In any case, our economy is toast. Greenspan can't leave the printing presses running at full steam because the dollar will eventually collapse (the only reason it hasnt yet is because we've pressured japan into printing more yen so the devaluation wouldnt appear so obvious) but if he turns the presses off our markets will collapse, as the money, even though it is a lot, is just barely enough to keep 10 or 15 tech stocks that control the indexes pumped up.

Either way, we're screwed. The fed just hopes y2k can be blamed.



To: fut_trade who wrote (81318)12/28/1999 11:47:00 AM
From: IceShark  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 86076
 
So now what happens to the big increase in Money Supply/Adjusted Monetary Base
created by the Fed?


Have you looked at the stock market lately, my fine feathered dolt? -g-

The big question is what happens next. A portion of this injection stuff reverses as a natural course unless EasyAl keeps printing. My bet is he will keep it up and CNBS will start ranting about February 29 being the next straw man to knock down for further new highs.

Who was it that called QCOM dropping back to 350ish after it hit 400? Good call, but I wish you would have added the rush to 500 as a post script. -g- Just think if we had gone long on that this time last year. Yikes! This poot shit is for the birds.



To: fut_trade who wrote (81318)12/28/1999 11:50:00 AM
From: pater tenebrarum  Respond to of 86076
 
it goes into stocks. they won't dare mop up the liquidity unless forced to do so by a dollar and/or bond market crisis. today altogether 15 billion dollars in temporary reserves were added. take the 'temporary' with a grain of salt. the merry pranksters know that withdrawing the liquidity would lead to WS catching a cold...and bear markets, even corrections, seem to have been outlawed. i don't buy the y2k guise anymore as a reason for the massive liquidity injections. something else is going on, but i sure have no idea what. i have repeatedly made guesses here, one of the more interesting of which is probably the one concerning interest rate derivatives. the banks have trillions of dollars in off-balance sheet derivative contracts hedging other players' interest rate risk. these derivatives do not need to be marked to market, and yet it is clear that someone has to be sitting on huge, and i mean HUGE, losses. as mentioned before, the hedges of Fannie and Freddie alone mean that the people on the other side of those trades are in the red to the tune of 30 billion dollars. there are also rumors going around that several prominent hedge fund managers were leaned upon to withdraw from the gold market when the big short covering spike occurred in September, as it was feared the 'system' (euphemism for fat-cat investment banks) would suffer from sustaining massive losses on the vast short position in the gold market. of course, that information stems from the notoriously conspiracy theory-prone circles watching the gold market for signs of manipulation.
interest rate derivatives are an easier to quantify and confirm subject, and in view of the credit explosion witnessed this year and last are probably a big systemic problem.
of course, as long as the institutions, speculators, whatever, involved are big enough, they can count on being bailed out if their bets go wrong. and so it goes...a giant ponzi scheme that needs to be fed ever more fiat money to keep going.