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To: Charles R who wrote (84326)	12/29/1999 8:17:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573794

Chuck - RE: "Tom's article on how AMD is unleashing the potential of the young Athlon platform one step at a time." That Super Bypass feature sure does improve performance! As the review said, it is almost like getting a higher speed bin processor. I want to see a Cumine 800 vs. Athlon 800 comparison with this feature enabled. It sucks that AMD couldn't get the feature out when the chipset came out. More importantly though, does the KX133 support this feature... "Looking forward to what a good Athlon + PC133 solution in Q1 and wondering what a good DDR platform can do Thunderbird...." If Via's team did as good a job as AMD's did with Irongate, the Athlon/KX133 should be more than competitive with Cumine. And Thunderbird will leave Cumine in the dust, grasping for a spot at the top end. I think it was Ace's that said a DDR-capable chipset won't come out until Mustang. Next year, the Athlon will offer superior performance over Cumine. Intel's only hope for the year is Willa-its-original-release-date-be-mette? Either that or hope AMD screws Dresden up. Both are up in the air as far as I'm concerned because I don't know much about either's current status. And Mustang is still running around in its prairie, performance unknown to us. This thing better increase Athlon performance a good amount IF it is to compete with Willy, IF Willy is what it will be hyped up to be.

To: Charles R who wrote (84326)	12/29/1999 8:54:00 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 1573794

Re: "Here is something that Intel fans may not enjoy. Tom's article on how AMD is unleashing the potential of the young Athlon platform one step at a time. " Nice spin. You should have said one bug fix at a time. EP

To: Charles R who wrote (84326)	12/29/1999 11:45:00 PM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1573794

Chuck, re:<Looking forward to a good Athlon + PC133 solution...> I think expectations for improvement of Athlon performance on the KX-133 chipset are very low. This is because the VIA PC133 solution for P6 performs slower than BX with PC100 in some cases, and faster in others. (just like i820) I'm convinced that this will not be the case for the Athlon because AMD has cooperated with VIA to make the KX-133 fast and to actually make the AMD 750 chipset obsolete. How much help did Intel give to VIA in order to make a PC-133 chipset for the P6? None, they sewed the britches off of them! There is also empirical evidence that the AMD 750 chipset actually has a superior AGP 2X implementation than the Intel BX chipset. Nearly all games run at high resolutions, where the graphics board is fill-rate-limited run faster on the Athlon than on a Coppermine. I can only conclude that the GPU's in the graphics boards spend less time waiting for data in an AMD 750 chipset system than in an Intel BX chipset system. Petz