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To: Brumar89 who wrote (28983)	1/1/2000 10:20:00 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

RE>>The predisposition aspect makes both the mercy and the wrath seem like "shooting fish in a barrel" to me. << Shooting Fish in a Barrel is Random ! You cannot use the words God & Chance in the same sentence unless you say.. ======= God has left nothing to Chance ======= Some people will honestly say that Jesus may have died and not one soul gotten saved but it was unlikely. Just think according to them God is a big Gambler... He may have Killed His own Son for nothing! God has appointed those who would be vessels of Wrath before the foundation of the world even as we... Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Do you not believe that Jesus Ordained for Judas to betray Him? John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? Could Judas have not betrayed Jesus... better yet could Jesus have failed and not gone to the Cross? Some men say yes. I hope that is not you Bruce. When God creates Evil men they cannot be saved. They are "appointed" Websters appointed = decided or determined beforehand 1 Peter 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. This verse plainly teaches that those who stumble at Jesus are "appointed" to that by GOD. Just as in the next verse those who do not are also "appointed" to the opposite: 1 Peter 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: You still can't see that in scripture Bruce? It is everywhere... Romans 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. God was Glorified in evil Pharoah. Could Pharoah have repented when God had promised to deliver Israel from 400 years of Captivity before they ever even saw Egypt? Genesis 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. I serve a the God of the Bible. He has ordained whatsoever come to pass and nothing is left to chance. He did not create a World that He lost control of. God is in control and hath made ALL THINGS get this... ============== FOR HIMSELF ============== If God is trying to save everyone why not also this man? De 2:30 But Sihon king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him: for the LORD thy God hardened his spirit, and made his heart obstinate, that he might deliver him into thy hand, as [appeareth] this day. The God that is trying to save everyone ( but failing ) is an IDOL! Even the anger of mankind is under God's Control: Psalms 76:10 Surely the wrath of man shall praise thee: the remainder of wrath shalt thou restrain. Even Kings do what God decrees: Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will. I serve the same God that turns the hearts of Kings where He Wills. Even as the Great King Nebuchadnezzar. Read what even King Nebuchadnezzar figured out about Daniels God Dan 4:34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation: 35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou? 36 At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellors and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me. 37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase. Sad but most Christians today can't seem to figure that much out! No roulette wheel or "fish in the barrel" at all. God hand picked those whom He will save before He created them. It is those who believe in free will who serve an Idol of "Chance" Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. The sheep are all numbered even as the hair on their heads.