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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Grainne who wrote (70046)1/2/2000 3:42:00 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Evidence is overwhelming that since the introduction of modern chemical agriculture around the world that population life expectancy has increased to previously unknown lengths. Hunger and starvation is worse than cancer. Modern whale-eating Japanese (most all of whom are still alive) live much longer than their vegetarian ancestors (most of whom are already dead.) QED.



To: Grainne who wrote (70046)1/2/2000 3:12:00 PM
From: Krowbar  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Christine, I would argue that our ancestors didn't get cancer because they didn't live long enough. It is mostly an aging disease. Go visit an old cemetery sometime and look at the ages that they died at. Most of them ate organic food, because they didn't have pesticides. I'll take modern agriculture. The big problem I see is people eating too much of it. I have noticed a definite fattening of the population over the last few years. There are going to be a lot of health problems as a result.

Del



To: Grainne who wrote (70046)1/2/2000 11:55:00 PM
From: Michael M  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Hi Christine!

I returned from Savannah hours ago and it has taken that long to wade through Feelies.

Reading a whole bunch at a time is not up-lifting.

Responding a whole bunch at a time may cause some others (including yourself) to have the same feeling. Nasty/nice is out of the question. As is nicey/nice.

Let's light this candle, Ms C!

I don't think pesticides have had jack to do with decreases in male fertility (assuming such a trend exists -- would you mind citing sources?).

IF there's been a decrease in male fertility maybe it has coincided with the ascendency of a bossy female class. NOW, NOW, don't go thinking I have anything against women or strong women or women who are smarter than me. There are many women in my life who's shadows I am proud to be in.

Pesticides, despite serious hazards and a need for understanding and caution, have benefited the human race enormously. You can look it up.

As for increases in cancer, most are thought attributable to the extra 30 years we now live. The vast majority of physicians of all stripes, other than those with some narrow, contrary agenda will tell you that we all have cancer all the time but our bodies hold it in check.

As we grow older, our bodies are less able to handle the stresses presented. I will go further on this subject if you wish, Christine.

For now,

M