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To: Krowbar who wrote (70167)1/2/2000 4:25:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I never see the Bible used for oaths, except on TV. As I never administer oaths, I have to admit I don't even listen when they are administered, but I don't think they even say "so help me God" anymore. I think they just say, "do you swear to tell the truth, and nothing but the truth," and the witness raises his/her hand and says, "I do," and if they say that their religion prohibits swearing, then they can affirm.



To: Krowbar who wrote (70167)1/2/2000 6:49:00 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Del,
When CW went to Teen Court, they did not use the Bible. He was all set to be hauled off to jail for contempt and I think he was disappointed that he didn't get to argue with the Judge; we sat there waiting with him saying what he was going to do if they brought out a Bible, and me hissing, "You will do whatever you're supposed to do"-- like he ever listens. He should have been born in the 60s; he belongs in freedom marches and picket lines.
I don't remember any mention of God in the swearing in either.



To: Krowbar who wrote (70167)1/3/2000 1:25:00 AM
From: Grainne  Respond to of 108807
 
<<lorrie, you have the option of asking for a secular alternative to swearing on the Bible in
a courtroom. It is rarely asked for, because it would obviously be upsetting. This is
another example of Christians coercing the public to use their rituals. You are not asked
which you prefer, it is assumed that you won't put up a fuss, and just go along with the
coercion.>>

I suspect that asking to use anything other than a Bible might be prejudicial in an American courtroom, since most people assume that good Christians are less likely to be guilty of anything.



To: Krowbar who wrote (70167)1/3/2000 2:02:00 PM
From: lorrie coey  Respond to of 108807
 
I see...

" You are not asked which you prefer, it is assumed that you won't put up a fuss, and just go along with the coercion."

...much like Mary's position, prior to the "Immaculate Conception".