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To: Neocon who wrote (70530)	1/4/2000 12:19:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

>>>>>defending the respect for religion that the Founders evidenced, and the sensitivity to the religious sentiments of the populace<<<<< What does that mean? Weren't we talking about the separation of church and state? What does "respect for religion" and "sensitivity to the religious sentiments of the populace" have to do with that? Is this another argument about being "sensitive" to the wishes of others that you somehow divine from the gestalt of the zeitgeist, like the one about breast-feeding?

To: Neocon who wrote (70530)	1/4/2000 12:45:00 AM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

First, I do not believe the article exaggerates the prevalence of Deism among the Founders. I don't think it really is a valuable use of time and energy to repeatedly throw quotes back and forth, but I could find so many, many more quotes if you are more interested in this method of discourse than I am. Secondly, whether you are a Christian or not, you SEEMED to be making a case for the "America is (was) a Christian nation, and therefore separation of church and state is unnecessary (undesirable), and not the intent of the Founding Fathers (and that it is a recent idea, to boot). I am asserting that this presumption is untrue. I think Mr. Jefferson's opinions are always interesting, but have no desire to bore anyone with them, as long as no one asserts that Mr. Jefferson was advocating anything other than the separation of church and state, or that he was a gung-ho Christian. I must say that you seem slightly more interested in posting very long tracts to me than in assimilating the ones I send to you.