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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (70711)	1/4/2000 1:25:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

There were many comments form the public health nurse? who worked in the town and who (I think) had spotted the epidemic in VD. So there was a medical/disease control aspect.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (70711)	1/5/2000 11:58:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Lizze, I really totally disagree that it does not much matter whether teenagers are sexually promiscuous. You say that teenagers will act one way or another, and that in the end you have yet to see evidence that it much matters. I realize this is not the first time that I have remarked that I suspect you will have a different view on some issue when you have the perspective of having children of your own, but it is all I can really say. How children grow up--how special and romantic sex is for them when they are adults, how hurt they are when they have teenage relationships that end, whether they value themselves, whether they experiment heavily with drugs and alcohol--is extremely important in the big picture. When you have children you want them to grow up without becoming badly damaged. You want them to fall in love and marry and be healthy and happy, and have healthy children of their own, if that is part of their own dream. You do not want to find them brokenhearted and sobbing because they had sex before they could handle its emotional implications and some relationship has ended and they are utterly wrecked by it. You want them to be strong and focused on their schoolwork and be able to benefit from opportunities in life. There is very little that changes so much as the perspective most people have pre-and post- having children. You become more conservative in a way because you want them to grow up in a stable environment. Wild parties, vulgar language, multiple sex partners and the general jaded adult culture all become things to protect them from, instead of things that you either participate in, or at least are not bothered by. As far as the girls who grew up in the seventies and had wilder sex experiences than girls who grew up later when the pendulum was swinging towards more conservative sexual behavior, I can only say that I and a lot of my friends who discuss the issue now are relieved that there is more societal support of virginity. There are articles in boomer magazines discussing whether parents should even answer their children's questions about sex and drugs honestly, because the children will reach the logical conclusion that if their parents survived it all, it must be okay for them to experiment. The truth, though, is that not everyone did make it through that period. There are so many burn-outs from that era still living on the streets of the Haight Ashbury here that it is really pathetic. No one notices the people who died, or thinks about all of the people who have herpes for life, or almost die of embarrassment every time they think of wild sex parties, and cannot believe that they participated in them. And another thing the magazine articles cover is people who may have done IV drugs ONCE in college in an era of much more experimentation, and now discover that they have hepatitis. I have no idea what you are talking about with Bennett and a labor shortage, when you say he should offer these girls JOBS. There is such a shortage of people to perform work now that 14-year-olds in San Francisco are making around $10.00 an hour. In more normal economic times, most employers refuse to hire anyone under 16. I also think documentaries like that are very important because most parents of teens are so busy working that they sometimes forget to really focus on their children's lives. Anything that makes parents reconsider whether their own children may be having negative experiences is definitely a positive. There have been numerous studies that show that most parents of teenagers who are using drugs are absolutely, totally unaware of it, for example, and do not know that most teenage pregnancies occur in the unsupervised time after school before their parents come home from work.