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To: fedhead who wrote (1193)1/4/2000 6:40:00 PM
From: re3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42523
 
HE doesn't sense despair...didn't the nas drop 20 % interday then ? effing hell, 20 % would poot the nas at 3200, then divide by 10, add cinnamon and presto, you've got fair value...

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To: fedhead who wrote (1193)1/4/2000 6:57:00 PM
From: pater tenebrarum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42523
 
well, no, i don't really think it will go there. as you say, that would require a rather nasty depression. however, it is not inconceivable for secular bear markets to shave 90% off the preceding bull market highs...it has happened in the past and there's no guarantee it won't happen again. just think about it: the NAZ p/e is now about 200. it's LT average is closer to 20. the extreme p/e expansion is purely a phenomenon of the 90's, fairly recent and in terms of the big picture a statistically aberrant period. so a 90% drubbing would get us to this 20 p/e, which is pretty high anyway (discounting 20 years of earnings on risky stuff like tech stocks? come on! - see what i mean?). now assuming that earnings actually decline during a recession (a reasonable enough assumption) reaching a 20 p/e may require what would look like a pretty sharp decline from today's levels. admittedly this NAZ 300 stuff is completely arbitrary and more or less in jest. still, 300 is a level last seen 10 years ago. in non-inflation adjusted terms a bottom could be higher and still be the equivalent of that level. note that the Nikkei hasn't even managed to surpass it's mania high of 1912 in inflation-adjusted terms, not even at the height of the mania ending in '89.