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Pastimes : DISCUSSION OF DOCTRINE of CHRISTIAN CHURCHES -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: PROLIFE who wrote (42)1/5/2000 1:24:00 AM
From: Tom Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 454
 
Hello Dan, this is from the link I just posted.

New Testament Teaching on the Real Presence

John 6:47-63,66 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh." The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever." This he said in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum. Many of his disciples, when they heard it, said, "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at it, said to them, "Do you take offense at this? Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending where he was before? It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life" . . . After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him.

These are difficult words. But I don't see how we skate around them.

Looking at John 4 23-24 I see that God is a spirit. But we already knew that, didn't we?

It's late, I must retire. I'll revisit this in the am.

Goodnight, Charles