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<<OH NO - I couldn't wait any longer. The torture must stopwhile I sip on this '84 Bordeaux. Ouch - bit my tongue on some crunchy bread.>>
FeedBack = See what happens when you do not play fair and try to have your PunishMint not to be so,... it comes back in a different way, and Bites You. <<Ouch - bit my tongue>>
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Thor, take heart, all the other desert dirts are in the dog house, the only difference is that their management has the courteous to remind their shareholders on a regular basis, "Yes, we have no...".
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Just in, an updated picture of the Global work site.
Included is a view of the dirt pile left over from the road construction of past years, and at the top you can see the hole left from the dirt that Jensen and Twiford and employees walked off with over the days and weeks and months and years that filled up their boots as they stood on top of the hill looking at the horizon for a guidance and direction and purpose on how to run Global. Just simple dirt that falls into one's boots or shoes thru normal activity of walking on lose ground, and at the end of the work day one goes home and before entering their house one will remove one's footware and shake/pour out the dirt so as not to dirty up their home.
Yes I understand your thoughts, that hole at the top of the dirt pile, that once was the top of the dirt pile, where upon each of them stood looking, looking for that which will deliver Global to it's shareholders, you think that which one pounders with disbelief, as you wonder as Jensen and Twiford stand upon the top of the hill looking outwards yes looking for us you and me and Jack and others on this thread like us in the dark wondering what Jensen and Twiford see as they stand upon the hill now with a hole at the top of the hill, they stand and look as they stand inside the hole, looking outwards towards the horizon straight into the inside wall of dirt that is the hole, only dirt abound no lights, only like a sky light, the top of the hole, so Jensen and Twiford see what ??? what = darkness & blackness so now we know the vision(s) Jensen and Twiford have for us we hurting shareholders now we know why we feel In The Dark becauses that is what Jensen and Twiford see see as what Global is and is is also described as Globals' Desert Dirt of that Pile, the hill, seemingly to decrease in size, as the hole increases, wider and deeper, SeemIngLY to "Walk Away" as its, but It'S own "power" to FaLL into Jensen's and Twiford's shoes/boots and then walk off Global's property each day, as the work day concludes.
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Please note, the "pilot" plant Global payed Big Bucks for can be seened in the picture located at the bottom. Yes, its those white cloth tents.
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Open Source Portal Launches
LINUX DISTRIBUTOR OPENS FREE PORTAL
Linux distributor VA Linux is sticking to its open-source roots with SourceForge, a free online program depot and portal for open-source developers. Coming out of its seven-week beta period, SourceForge lets open-source developers upload and download code, automatically monitor open-source project discussions and stay abreast of individual projects with bug and task-tracking databases. The site also offers management tools for project administrators where they can manage developer membership for specific projects. It was Net resources such as these which spawned Linux in the first place. Further evidence that open source is a powerful movement -- one Java should join to save itself. Click for more.
January 4, 2000
Giving Back
Flush with IPO cash, VA Linux stays true to its open-source roots.
By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, Sm@rt Reseller
VA Linux, the Linux hardware vendor and high-tech stock darling, is staying true to its open-source roots by opening SourceForge, a free online program repository and portal for open-source developers.
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SourceForge, still emerging from a seven-week beta period, offers open-source developers more than just a data repository for the "official" version of their code and online forums. Services like these have long been available via ftp sites and Usenet newsgroups. Indeed, it was from just such universally available Net resources that Linux itself sprang.
SourceForge moves beyond these open-source development environments to a groupware-like development environment. Through SourceForge, a developer can not only upload and download code and join in open-source project discussions, but also can automatically monitor discussions and keep in the loop on individual projects with bug and task-tracking databases.
The new site also provides management tools for project administrators. Administrators can manage developer membership for their particular projects. If people want to join a project as a developer, they must first register on the site as users, then they must contact a given project's administrator before being allowed to work on a specific project. Once these individuals are designated as developers, the administrator controls their ability to post code to the common version source databases, initiate bug or task reports, and moderate discussion groups.
While SourceForge is no replacement for an all-out source code, project management program, its Team Development Environment is easily the best available open-source-project development environment.
Not Just For Linux Projects
Despite the "Linux" in VA Linux's name, SourceForge isn't limited to Linux projects. Any and all legitimatize open-source projects are welcome, regardless of their target operating environment. Whether an open-source program runs on OpenBSD, Palm or even Windows, so long as it's an open-source program it's game for SourceForge.
SourceForge is an open source "license-free" zone. While projects must be open source, in the widest possible sense, VA Linux doesn't try to police the politics of which open-source licenses are more pure than others.
As SourceForge prepares to open its doors to the public, it already hosts about 700 open-source projects, from such major projects to VA Linux's own Cluster Manager and Topaz, a next-generation version of the Perl programming language, to FreeVet, a Y2K-ready animal-clinic management program. Approximately 3,500 developers already are on-site with hundreds more coming onboard per week.
No one is predicting that SourceForge will replace the existing infrastructure behind such major open-source projects as Apache, Linux or FreeBSD. But, it's also apparent that SourceForge will likely be the launchpad for many other open-source projects.
October 8, 1999
Get Over It! Open Source Squabbling
In the long run, there isn't much practical difference between GPL and SCSL.
By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, Sm@rt Reseller
I believe in open source.
I believe in it as a programmer, because with the whole world looking at a program's code, I know that if there are problems, they'll get fixed Peer-review works for engineering; now it's working for computer programming. That's great.
I believe in open source as a reseller, because open source products are sturdier than their proprietary relatives and cost less.
I also believe that I'm getting sick and tired of the legalistic wrangling between rule lawyers arguing over open source license details. Really sick and tired.
So, let me spell out what I see are the practical differences between the licenses. Real open source licenses, like the Gnu Public License (GPL), the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) license and the Artistic License, let you work with source code and modify it to your heart's content. With the GPL, you must share your code changes with the rest of the world and that's about it. For more on the details see: Freeware Isn't So Free.
Then, there are what I call semi-open licenses like the Sun Community Source License (SCSL). The problem here, to quote Bruce Perens, open source guru, is: "Sun's SCSL is written to gain them all of the advantages of Open Source without any of the obligations. They're expecting the community to participate on the same basis as they would with Linux, but most developers understand that the SCSL license doesn't give developers the quid-pro-quo that they get with Linux, and developers aren't going for it."
Why not? Because with SCSL, Sun owns the code and any changes you make to it are Sun's, and Sun's alone. To quote Linus Torvald from remarks he made this week at Internet World, "There is a history of misusing 'open' as a marketing term. To me 'open' means more than just being able to look at stuff. With open software you can enter it and start playing with it and make your own decisions, and you don't have to ask permission to start doing stuff."
I see both Perens' and Torvald's points. Philosophically, I agree with them completely. But, in the real world, so what?
Linux is becoming more commercialized by the minute. Sure with SCSL, Sun reaps any direct financial benefits from good changes made to Solaris or Star Office. But, with GPLed Linux, isn't it funny how the biggest open source billionaires are not the people who wrote the device drivers or parts of the kernel, but the big money backers of Red Hat? So where is the Linux 'roof over my head and food in my kids' tummy" quid-pro-quo for the operating system's developers? I don't see it.
And, have you taken a good look at the "where the heck did they come from!" LinuxOne IPO S-1 statement? This company's IPO documents reads like copies of Red Hat's IPO statements. There's nothing illegal about that and certainly there's nothing wrong with putting out another Linux distribution. But, here's a business going IPO... and they don't even have a shipping, non-beta Linux distribution. Is just me or does it seem like LinuxOne's main intent seems to be making a quick buck from Linux and open source stock fever, with quality open source additions to Linux only a secondary priority?
Of course, you can also make a good living by being a Linux expert. And, yes, you can do well by reselling and servicing Linux. But, you know what? You can do all that with Solaris too-before and after SCSL.
Maybe it's time to stop being dreamy about open source. Can we admit that while it's an extremely useful way of creating software, in the world where cash counts that maybe, just maybe, that it has also turned into is a way of making money from the sweat of idealistic software developers--regardless of license?
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