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Pastimes : DISCUSSION OF DOCTRINE of CHRISTIAN CHURCHES -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (46)	1/9/2000 12:37:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 454

Good morning CharleyMane, I don't want to get in a battle of scripture quoting. It's an area I'm lacking in and I'm sure you are very knowledgeable. How does that song go? "The Battle Belongs to the Lord." When I use scripture, my intention is to battle satan with it, not Christians. My personal knowledge is quite limited, so that is why I DO use scripture mostly on a Bible program. If we do not use scripture in our "discussion" then we only have manmade talk and traditions with which to lean on and that is a BIG problem. That ,IMO, is why so many "religions" do not really want their lay people in the Word, because they know once they ARE in the Word, they find freedom and why so many folks think they can make their own way to some sort of a god down the road.. You sound as if you are RC, and I know you have been taught by tradition that man cannot understand scripture. I find it interesting that in some arguements, the RC church will perk up and defend a tradition that says THEY brought the Bible through the times to now, and they then turn around and say sorry, you can't understand it. Well I think the common folk did hear and understand. And I think I can prove it with scripture. As Jesus taught..the last part of Mark 12:37 says this... ..."And the common people heard him gladly." and Jesus is recorded in MAtt. 11:25..as saying Himself : "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. And recorded in Matt. 13:51 ..Jesus even asked His disciples: "Have you understood all these things?" and in response? "Yes," they replied. As far as Jesus writing Himself, why would He have come to sit and write? John the baptizer is recorded as saying "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" Scripture say He came to seek and save the lost. It also says this in John 20: 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Jesus did many other things but the Word says enough was recorded to be sufficient. I still want to know, if Christ thought that following the letter of the law to the point of splitting hairs, it was not the splitting of the hairs that Jesus railed on the Pharisees about.. It was the ADDING of hairs, and the PILING ON of hairs to the lay folks when they themselves could not even follow them, and the PUBLIC SPECTACLE of looking like they were hair following, to make themselves look pious. They were always seeking to make themselves strong, in both place and nation, and that is why Jesus constantly rebuked them. So much more to say, but only if you choose to continue with me. God bless dan