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To: Process Boy who wrote (86253)	1/10/2000 12:15:00 AM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573242

PB, <I don't dispute this.> I thought you disputed precisely this. I don't have the patience to go back and see what transpired over the last month or so for me to reach this conclusion. So, I will yield. <Intel itself has said this. > Where? Can you provide a link? The only thing that I remeber is system availability in ~20 days from Dell with Intel saying the volumes ramp up in Q1. <Where I'm getting irritated is that I perceive you to attribute this to a technology issue, and this somehow equates to Intel being knocked out of the MHz race, which I clearly do not believe to be the case.> I am sorry to tell you this man, but whether you believe it or not, as things stand right now intel has been behind the MHz race for a good quarter or so. Just go to any computer store (online or offline) and see what is shipping. Let's debate this topic once that status changes. <Intel is releasing product much earlier in the production cycle.> Yeah! Like when the part is not in volume production. <Due to this, availability at first is admittedly slim. I anticipate launches going forward having greater volume as more capacity comes on line. > Like I said, when Intel starts shipping a product in volume we can compare notes. Why bother when the availability is next to nothing. Chuck

To: Process Boy who wrote (86253)	1/10/2000 12:37:00 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573242

Intel is releasing product much earlier in the production cycle. Why? Due to this, availability at first is admittedly slim. I anticipate launches going forward having greater volume as more capacity comes on line. PB, Intel has more fab space than God...are you still wanting us to believe there was not enough capacity to satisfy demand? I don't believe it and I suspect GTW doesn't believe it. You said it up above....Intel is releasing product earlier in the product cycle. When will you admit that Intel announced the 733 and 800's in order to out-MHz AMD and before they had time to ramp up....and that it backfired on them? In times past Intel had the luxury of an inept AMD and a MHz lead that allowed them to ramp up before the launch was announced...of course they looked good because they had tons of chips in inventory ready to ship. Those days are over and its showing. I have the highest respect for you but you are starting to look very foolish maintaining the party line when the evidence runs in the face of it. ted