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To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/12/2000
From: Bryan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
Hi Kim,
You go take care of #1. We'll house-sit for you. It's been a melee at times, but fun at all times. And it seems that no matter what happens, nobody holds grudges and nobody stays bitter, and all make a genuine attempt to remain focused and provide relevant content. You have laid the groundwork for the forum, and IMO, the regulars will have no problem maintaining the peace in your absence. I might even lend a helping hand ;-)

B- home on the range



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/12/2000 12:24:00 AM
From: johnsto1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
ARIA...is there more to this story

The ‘billion dollar' quote
by: Aurileano
1/11/00 11:41 pm
Msg: 3615 of 3618
From the abstract of patent #6,011,018 (which, from my, scannning covers the entire ARGENT platform):

‘…the dimerizers (i.e. the molecules driving ARGENT) have the potential to serve as "universal drugs". They can also be
viewed as cell permeable, organic replacements for therapeutic antisense agents or for proteins that would otherwise require
intravenous injection or intracellular expression.'

If you want a billion dollar drug, I would guess a ‘universal drug' certainly wouldn't hurt. Nor would it hurt much if self same
drug replaced antisense therapy or other approaches requiring iv injections.

--------------------------------------------

I've followed Ariad's science for 2+ years and I'm quite familiar with it. The events of the last ~2 weeks have not involved
any new scientific data (although I'm not yet aware of the data presented at Keystone). The most recent publication by the
company, the ‘clustering' paper published 6 weeks in PNAS, was consistent with all the previous work from the company:
absolutely top notch science with a distinctly creative flair. The major changes that have occurred have happened outside the
scientific realm: 1. the company has received $40 million from HMR from the sale of its 50% stake in the genomics facility
and 2. today's news regarding the patents. While my background is in sceince (and that is what brought me to Ariad – it's
the only biotech stock I've ever owned), the recent events put the company on a substantially firmer foundation than even 4
weeks ago. Not only does the company have cash and a much narrower focus (good) with a very strong platform
(ARGENT), the ‘formalizing' of this platform with the patent announcement today virtually assures Ariad (IMO) a steady
and rapidly growing income from the licensing revenue (and their own ARGENT based applications).

Today's response by the market, as reflected especially by the volume, was a belated recognition that ARGENT may indeed
be an incredibly valueable reagent; a reagent whose potential uses really are almost unimaginable and a reagent that many
other companies could apply to numerous CURRENT approaches. With the patent now in effect, Ariad has locked in place
the foundation for a potentially tremendous revenue stream.

I've been making statements to this effect, on this thread, for over two years. A couple of the other oldtimers have as well.
Following the events of the past 2 weeks, it would seem there are now a couple more folks who agree with our assessment
of ARGENT.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 3605 by Pirkkal
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To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/12/2000 4:34:00 AM
From: swisstrader  Respond to of 108040
 
<Miss everyone too, but no, I won't have much time to post until late January>

OK, now does everyone have this bookmarked so that 3 days from now we can simply refer to post no. 60993 from Kim when someone says "hey, where's Kim?!...she must be doing XXXXX!"



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/13/2000 3:37:00 AM
From: swisstrader  Respond to of 108040
 
More on TJ case from WSJ, including quotes from Jenna and A@P:
January 12, 2000
SEC to Internet Stock-Pickers:
'Tokyo Joe' Was Just the Start
By JASON ANDERS
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL INTERACTIVE EDITION
On stock-chat message boards, a lot of people have long wanted to be the next "Tokyo Joe." They've wanted to break from the rank-and-file and become a stock-picking guru, with legions of loyal followers and the power -- whether real or perceived -- to move stock prices.

But following the fraud case that was filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission last week against Tokyo Joe -- whose real name is Yun Soo Oh Park -- a different question is being asked on the boards: Who'll be next in the SEC's crosshairs?

Message-board users are right to be worried, regulators say. "We are looking at a number of other individuals and I think you will see other actions. But that's all I can say about that," says Tim Warren, associate regional director of the SEC in Chicago, where the case against Mr. Park was filed in federal court. He won't identify other potential targets.

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Many message-board users have become self-styled Internet stock gurus in recent years. Most have egos as large as their purported bankrolls, welcoming new followers while widely ignoring critics. Their stock picks are publicized on the Net and closely followed by many message-board participants.

Some of the best-known stock-pickers have Web sites that, like one run by Mr. Park, charge a fee for access to stock tips and other information for active traders.

Not surprisingly, these other Internet stock pickers say their operations are drastically different than Mr. Park's. The SEC alleges, among other things, that Mr. Park engaged in "scalping," or buying stocks before urging his subscribers to buy, and then selling his shares into the rallies created by his recommendations -- a charge Mr. Park vehemently denies.

A central part of the SEC's case, says Mr. Warren, is that Mr. Park charged between $100 and $200 a month for access to his stock picks -- effectively making him an investment advisor, the agency believes. "As an investment advisor, he has a fiduciary duty to make full and fair disclosure to his clients -- in particular, to disclose conflicts of interest. His pattern of buying and selling was a clear conflict of interest," says Mr. Warren.

The SEC has strict rules for investment advisors, and generally only requires individuals to formally register as such advisors if they have more than 15 paying clients or manage significant assets for others. Mr. Warren says this is the first case where the SEC has sought to apply such regulation to online stock pickers.

For his part, Mr. Park says it's "crazy" to call him an investment advisor. "I never say, 'Buy this.' I say, 'I'm buying.' There are lots and lots of people doing what I'm doing, and people who are really scamming people. Why don't they go after them?" says Mr. Park. He says he is still operating his Web site, Tokyo Joe's Societe Anonyme (www.tokyojoe.com), and still trading stocks.

"It seems that the SEC's view is that the proposing of stock picks is itself investment advice, and can be governed by investment-advisor rules," says Blake Bell, an attorney with Simpson Thacher & Bartlett in New York, who specializes in Internet securities cases. "That in and of itself no doubt brought shudders to all the people online who are doing this."

Indeed, judging from the comments being passed around on message boards, several of the Net's best-known stock pickers are watching the case closely.

"People are definitely worried about this case. If you're not worried, you're an idiot," says Anthony Elgindy, a well-known stock picker whose bitter rivalry with Mr. Park is no secret on Silicon Investor.

Mr. Elgindy, who posts under the alias "Anthony@Pacific," says about 300 subscribers pay $600 a month for access to his picks, almost all of which are "shorts" -- a risky form of trading where investors bet a stock's price will fall. But Mr. Elgindy says he offers full disclosure about exactly when he is buying and selling stocks.

Still, he says he will register with the SEC as an investment advisor -- a plan he says was in the works before the Tokyo Joe case. "I don't believe I've acted in any capacity whatsoever as a financial advisor, but just to be sure I'm going to let the SEC know who I am," he says, before chuckling and adding, "as if they don't know me already." (An SEC spokesman declines to comment on Mr. Elgindy.)

Mr. Bell, the securities attorney, says investors need to be particularly careful when taking investment advice from others -- especially on the Internet. "As a consumer, how do you really know someone is buying and selling when they say they are?" he asks.

Some of the site operators point to disclaimers on their site that explain that they don't offer investment advice. But Mr. Bell says regulators evaluate sites based on what they do, not on what they say they do. "The SEC is not always as impressed with disclaimers as those who author them are," he says. "The SEC has made it clear in other contexts that blanket disclosures may not be enough. If I were operating one of these sites, I'd be very, very concerned about disclosure issues."

Barbara Simon, another well-known member of Silicon Investor and operator of a Web site that caters to active traders, says she's upset by the negative attention brought by the Tokyo Joe case. "I'm a bit embittered because this case sheds a bad light on day and swing traders," says Ms. Simon, who posts under the alias "Jenna" on Silicon Investor.

On her site, called Market Gems, Ms. Simon maintains a daily "watch list" of stocks that she believes are poised to move. Unlike Mr. Elgindy's site, where tips are exchanged by members in a real-time chat room, Ms. Simon sends out her picks in bursts of electronic mail to subscribers who pay about $89 a month for the service.

"I call fundamentally sound stocks. They go up because of their fundamentals, not because we're pumping them," says Ms. Simon. She says she invests in between one-third and one-half of the stocks she profiles to subscribers, and says she "sometimes" tells subscribers exactly when she is buying and selling.

"People know that I am buying some of these. If there were anything negative going on with us, you'd read about it" on Silicon Investor, she says, where she is one of the most "bookmarked," or followed, users. "I don't know of many people out there who do what I do, in terms of the depth of the research."

John Coffee, a law professor at Columbia University, says there is some concern that the Investment Advisors Act is "overbroad," and notes that operators of stock-picking sites have long assumed that investment-advisor rules don't apply to them. "There are clear freedom of speech issues," he says. "But still, scalping is scalping. If you're touting stocks and looking to profit, freedom of speech isn't going to protect you."



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/14/2000 6:33:00 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108040
 
Wonder where that Kimberly has gotten off too...mmmmmm! :-)



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/18/2000 10:27:00 PM
From: Jim B  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
well let us know what IPOs are good... after all, our buying might help support the IPOs and that will make everyone happy..

every little bit helps... look forward to having you back

jim



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/21/2000 1:55:00 PM
From: Dave Gore  Respond to of 108040
 
MDCM Recomendation/Alert from BRIEFING.COM (80% off its highs with recent good news)

Seems to be ready to go up; positive news with CountryWide Credit; Stock was near $23 a few month ago.
newsalert.com

Now 5-9/16

Mortgage.com (MDCM) 4 29/32 - 1/32: This is what internet marketing is all about. Take one part internet company, add in partnership with an existing company that has distribution, and the sum is greater than the parts. The early thinking on the internet was that brand new companies were going to destroy existing business and erect new castles in the ruins of the brick-and-mortar companies. But that thinking looks kind of old now. Even mighty Amazon.com
(AMZN) is having trouble keeping all of its investors patient. But today's deal between Mortgage.com and Countrywide Home Loans, a subsidiary of Countrywide Credit Industries, (CCR), shows a more powerful way for internet companies to leverage their expertise with existing players. Mortgage.com will build customized web sites for all of the brokers that currently sell Countrywide loans (for a fee). Countrywide "wholesales" mortgage money to independent
brokers or mortgage companies, who then sell mortgages directly to consumers. This deal helps the brokers, because they become "web-enabled," making them look better, becoming more efficient (web forms versus paper), and possibility generating direct sales. The deal helps Countrywide because it serves their distribution arm better, keeping them loyal, and possibly generates a lower expense in processing each loan. The deal helps Mortgage.com because it broadens
their strategy. Frankly, if Mortgage.com stuck to a pure consumer model, it would be worrisome. You can get a mortgage directly from Mortgage.com, but that is a very competitive field right now. By getting more deeply involved in business oriented services, Mortgage.com stands a better chance of getting a lasting competitive edge. They need it, too, as the market has clearly judged Mortgage.com to be "just another loan site." So we like the deal for both
Mortgage.com, and Countrywide, but particularly for Mortgage.com. We would like the deal even better if we knew that Mortgage.com had, in exchange for building the sites, and processing the mortgage info, a recurring piece of each loan. But we couldn't verify that today. Nevertheless, it is a great model for other internet companies. Rather than tear down the existing companies, this type of strategy is more like a symbiotic way to weave yourself into the existing
businesses, and become an essential partner. It is a very "Swiss" approach to doing business, and we predict that more and more internet companies will start following this model. - RVG



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/28/2000 9:55:00 AM
From: Dave Gore  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
OTC/BB Lovers: ** EISQ ** and HP are teaming up in a huge SmartCard ID market. Apparently EISQ's compression software technology is excellent. NEWS YESTERDAY FOR DD. I only took an initial position; this will fall back at some point to profit-taking, so I will buy more on a significant dip, but not sure how high it will go today or Monday.

More news due over the next days and weeks (according to their I/R) and only 16 million shares O/S, making this a cheap stock by todays standards.

This is a big niche. HP has deveoted a 4,000 employees to it.

NEWS FROM YESTERDAY

(COMTEX) B: ELECTRONIC IDENTIFICATION INC - EI2 And HP To Bring Smart
B: ELECTRONIC IDENTIFICATION INC - EI2 And HP To Bring Smart Card Application
To A Global Market

New York, New York, Jan. 27, 2000 (Market News Publishing via COMTEX)
-- Electronic Identification, Inc. (EI2), developer of Smart ID Card
technology supported by a state-of-the-art Intranet framework,
announced EI2 and HP have strengthened its teaming agreement to meet
challenges of capturing the Middle East business. The companies are
completing an agreement to match funds to accomplish the technology
roadmap and pre-sales engineering objectives. EI2 will lead a
comprehensive analysis of its technology with the goal of establishing
a roadmap leading to the complete merger of EI2's innovations with
mainline HP smart card architecture. At the same time, an evaluation of
the latest innovations in embedded chip technology, digital cameras and
finger print readers will be conducted. Conceptual architectures for
network computing systems and legacy system integration will be
created.

The following is a direct reprint of an article in the San Jose and
Silicon Business Journal, entitled: Safer smart cards goal of
partnership

BY LORNA FERNANDES Special to The Business Journal Hewlett-Packard
Co. has sealed a partnership with Vancouver, Canada-based Electronic
Identification Inc. to enhance security on smart cards. The companies
are working together on three projects totaling $500 million for
customers in the Middle East, and have several joint projects slated
for Europe. Both firms were sketchy on the details of the contract
because of a need for secrecy.

HP has been researching and deploying smart card technology for
several years, and has a facility of about 4000 employees working
specifically on smart cards in Grenoble, France. But Electronic
Identification brings more to the table, said Donnie Foster, HP general
manager of e-solutions for the Americas. "[The company] uses an
interesting technology that allows more information to be stored on the
card," Mr. Foster said. Smart cards are used for identification and
security. The technology stores information about the cardholder on a
chip that is surrounded by an antenna and embedded on a card. The card
is then placed in the proximity of a card reader, which recognizes the
card and approves or negates entrance or access to information.

Electronic Identification's compression software allows customers to
include photos and finger- or handprints on the chip, which make it
desirable for high security clients and government agencies. While
technology companies such as HP have been trying for years to ignite
interest in smart cards in the United States, the cards have caught on
in Europe and the Middle East at a fevered pitch. The technology was
introduced in Europe while Europeans were still conducting most
transactions in cash, so it was easily adopted, Mr. Foster said. In the
United States, Americans had made the transition from cash to credit
and were not easily swayed. "HP has committed to supply all systems
integration, hardware and people," said Terry Kirby, chairman and CEO
of Electronic Identification. "We are providing the software."

The company has a small office in Alameda and is planning to open a
satellite office near the HP campus in San Jose. It also plans to house
employees and equipment in HP's Cupertino offices by year-end.

Lorna Fernandes is a staff writer with the San Francisco Business
Times, a sister publication.

"With this agreement in place", added, Mr. Terry Kirby, Chairman & CEO
of EI2, "working with HP opens a lot of new doors for us. HP with its
new aggressive philosophy and its lead in the "Smart Card" technology
is one of the few companies that has the global clout and presence to
successfully assist EI2 in closing our existing government business as
well as implementing and promoting EI2's e*PICS technologies and
solutions in the global market place that is ripe with major
opportunities."

By taking advantage of market demand and the "Smart Card" experience
offered by the Grenoble, France component of HP, along with the global
consulting unit of HP, EI2 will be able to mobilize both leading design
proven services with 24x7 uptime and 99.9% efficiency HP hardware and
the very cost effective electronic identification solutions provided by
EI2. "The companies together will build a "Smart Card" solution that
should quickly become an industry standard for the issue of Identity
and Residence Cards as well as Electronic Visas. We at EI2 could not
ask for a better systems integrator and the prominent and superior
quality of HP products as well as its global services and support
organization." said, Terry Kirby.

EI2 develops and markets electronic identification issuing and
authentication systems. It also provides an Intranet based framework
for the issue of fraud and tamperproof ID cards via its flagship
product line, the Electronic Personnel Identification and Control
Systems (e*PICS). E*PICS allows for the rapid development of customer
specific applications that include the integration of legacy systems.

Forward-looking statements in this release are made pursuant to the
"safe harbor" provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform
act of 1995. Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking
statements involve risks and uncertainties including, without
limitation, continued acceptance of the company's products,
competition, new products and technological changes, intellectual
property rights and other risks.

-0-

TEL: 604-684-6906 Electronic Identification, Inc.
TEL: 604-684-6906 Electronic Identification, Inc
TEL: 1-877-713-1900 John Di Cicco
FAX: 604-689-2669
____________



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)1/28/2000 10:42:00 AM
From: Dave Gore  Respond to of 108040
 
**EISQ/HP** UPDATE: EISQ up 20% (1.8M sh) since mention 30 minutes ago and climbing steady on HP/SmartCard news; anybody who has DD'd this should watch the close today.

Even those who don't like OTC stocks may want to take a look (or not)

I do expect profit-taking at some point but it is going up so steadily, I don't see that yet on L2.



To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (60990)3/30/2000 10:58:00 AM
From: Dave Gore  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
Full Report on ** OPTO ** (13-3/4 x 14); Merrill has $27 price target.

I am certainly perplexed; even the new acquisition is being praised; where is the bottom? Anybody know what is going on?

COMPILATION OF RECENT BROKERAGE REPORTS FROM BRIEFING.COM AND NEWS REPORTS

BACKGROUND: revenues rose 77% Optio Software, Inc. provides software that enables organizations to customize and deliver information
to a global network of digital destinations, including printers, faxes, e-mail, the Internet and wireless devices. For the 9 months ended 10/31/99,
revenues rose 77% to $23.2M. Net income totalled $1.3M, up from $598K. Results reflect a growing acceptance and increased sales of
software licenses to customers.

ON THE RECENT ACQUISITION
Merrill Report
-By purchasing Muscato OPTO is bolstering its emerging e.Com product line with a suite of e commerce
functionality that will allow Optio to add bi-directional XML support to its information broadcast technology.
-We expect this more comprehensive offering to expand its B2B integration offering.
-We think this deal makes sense. Optio picks up attractive XML server technology at an attractive valuation (4x trailing revenues) and will
immediately benefit from this accretive transaction. We believe OPTO, at 7.5x CY 200 revenues represents undiscovered value.

FROM BRIEFING.COM: several upgrades and $27 price target by Merrill Lynch

15-Mar-00
Optio Software (OPTO) 20 -7/8: Software company reports a Q4 net of $0.03 per share, a penny better than the Zacks mean estimate, vs
year-ago loss of $0.02; see press release .

10-Jan-00
Optio Software (OPTO) 20 1/16 -2 5/8: Merrill Lynch initiates coverage of software company with a near-term accumulate and long term buy
opinion; price target is $27; Merrill Lynch was one of the underwriters for the company's IPO.....

March 28
Bear Stearns
Initiated
Re-iteratre Attractive

16-Mar-00
Merrill Lynch
Reiterated
NT Accum/LT Buy

11-Jan-00
Bear Stearns
Initiated
Attractive

10-Jan-00
Robinson Humphrey
Initiated
Buy

10-Jan-00
Merrill Lynch
Initiated
NT Accum/LT Buy