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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (64756)	1/12/2000 7:48:00 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

He wasn't defending Rocker.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (64756)	1/12/2000 8:06:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 67261

I want to clarify something: I think that management overreacted,and that sending someone to a shrink in such circumstances is unseemly. But I also think that comparing it to serious matters like actual psychiatric confinement in the Soviet Union is over the top, and that one should not make much of it. African-Americans and Jews have reason to ask for more stringent decorum in public discourse. The virulence of racism was pervasive and given institutional support until the 1960s, and the last survivors of slavery only recently died. The Holocaust destroyed the center of world Jewry in Poland, Lithuania, and Ukraine, although its barbarity extended further, and showed the way in which anti- semitism could metastasize. Had the Zionists not already established a strong presence in Palestine, and had there not already been a large emigration to the United States, the Jews would have been effectively destroyed as a people. In instances like this, it is not merely PC to require that expressions of contempt and hostility not be shrugged off. One of the things that helped to make me a conservative was that the ACLU could not see that although the Nazis had a right to public assembly in the Chicago area, they did not have a right to harass a bunch of Holocaust survivors in the town of Skokie, merely for publicity. There were much less confrontational ways of making reasonable accommodation for their first amendment rights. Conservatives should know better than to defend an "anything goes" attitude.......

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (64756)	1/12/2000 12:40:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 67261

Well it hardly seems the liberal was defending Rocker, but if that was his intent he did a lousy job of it. Well, I'm not forgiving him because I don't care what this dumb hick thinks in the first place. What does concern me here is the precedent being set: that professional employees do not have a right to voice their own opinions on matters that have nothing to do with how they perform their jobs. What if a Texas Ranger pitcher had announced that he thought George W. Bush was too goofy ever to be president? Should be taken off the mound? There is a glaring fallacy here, and anyone calling himself a conservative ought to refer to his heritage of rational thought to find it, than rely upon the modernist's tendency toward illogic to justify lunacy. I see conservatives, like liberals, apparently cannot think in essentials, overlooking form for substance. This is quite a travesty. You see, aside from the fallacy alluded to above, the illogic of this so called "defense" is the same as that used to defend your perjurious President, except that instead of allowing the president to lie to our courts without threat of losing his job, it allows all Americans to transgress common decency without threat of losing their jobs-- so long as they "do their jobs." It will not require the most perceptive individual to see the comprehensive absurdity of this "defense" and to descry that this is why the liberal has submitted it on Rocker's behalf. Rocker supporters who celebrate here have little cause for celebration. They have been duped, and by a non-thinking liberal no less. Free speech does not give anyone the right to keep his job while in the wake of his acting like scum, and conservatives of all people ought to know this. An employee reflects the character of his employers, much as a president reflects the character of his. When an employee is in position to serve as a role model for millions, having power to garner worldwide attention, this is especially true. Leaders who desire to maintain a certain public persona act completely within the bounds of reason when they eliminate subordinates who publicly challenge their agenda, especially when those subordinates blatantly transgress common decency-- willfully insulting clients and prospects. Had Rocker been under my employ, I likely would have nailed him to the wall, just as I would have nailed Bill Clinton. These two men are fortunate indeed to have morons for bosses.