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To: Sig who wrote (151481)1/17/2000 6:01:00 AM
From: Patrick E.McDaniel  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 176387
 
~~~OT~~~ BMW program in Germany. Driving in Europe. This covered travel expenses in Europe and picking up the car at a US port city.
The US factory may have changed this program. Also both locations have driving schools.

One way to learn to drive is to go to school.
bmw.com

It has been several years since I looked into this but the deal was at that time you save about $5000 on the car when you pick it up in Germany.

Americans are usually the worst drivers in Europe. They are not used to good roads, signs and good drivers. As a result they do a lot of stupid things expecting bad drivers which make them stand out on the roads. Americans have many bad habits that distract them from paying attention to traffic around them. Higher speeds make this very dangerous. Drive in Europe and you become a better driver at home.

Driving in Europe has to be the most fun thing to do. They give a lot of advanced warnings. Speed limit changes and upcoming intersections to highways are warned many kilometers before action is needed. Speed limits when in place are radar camera enforced so if you don't want a surprise in the mail be good. I was in Germany 2 years ago and there was a lot of road construction.

Semi-trucks are different in Europe and the drivers are very good.

It used to be easy to spot a French car as they had yellow headlights and were no used to the higher speeds in Germany.

Harley's were popping up from time to time but most motorcycles were BMW and other British brands. Japanese bike are also taking to the road when they were almost never seen years ago. Japanese bikes in Europe was looked down on.

It used to be the same with the cars. Japanese cars were never on the roads but 2 years ago I saw they were becoming more accepted.

Pat



To: Sig who wrote (151481)1/17/2000 9:57:00 AM
From: OLDTRADER  Respond to of 176387
 
RE:Sig-I take six car magazines if you have any questions.wbm



To: Sig who wrote (151481)1/17/2000 11:54:00 AM
From: PMS Witch  Respond to of 176387
 
Off topic --- European car delivery.

A couple of years ago, Mercedes sent me some info about this program. It seemed that a vacation of about 3 weeks was needed to break even. You got a tour of the factory and a North American spec car. I didn't take them up on it, so I cannot comment on the details. (My idea of a vacation is NOT driving.) I talked to my local dealer and was told they sell a half-dozen cars this way each year.

Cheers, PW.



To: Sig who wrote (151481)1/17/2000 12:26:00 PM
From: Murrey Walker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
Sig...MB North America no longer offers the European delivery. I asked my salesperson who I'm buying from and she said the program was discontinued.



To: Sig who wrote (151481)1/17/2000 1:47:00 PM
From: Gabriel008  Respond to of 176387
 
Sig, Porsche offers European delivery if you're interested. They give you a tour of their facilities in Stuttgart, feed you and then bring your car to you. The lead time to order & receive delivery is at least 3 months.

Regards, Gabriel