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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: milo_morai who wrote (88638)	1/20/2000 7:25:00 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576099

King of Links is back........... HP has the new pages up that I almost had earlier. hp.com hp.com hp.com Two are new.... Stay tuned. And John Hull talked to me today! I'm so proud! Make it so, Mysef

To: milo_morai who wrote (88638)	1/20/2000 9:44:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576099

Milo, Well you can fry a chip and ask for a new one under warranty with the golden fingers, so AMD will love that. they have to eat them or deny them and since they have no way to know they get screwed. Soldered stuff....you are screwed. The only way to avoid this is with a cuttable link grid near the edge connector that can be cut after initial setup up to the sale speed. If someone solders those links back again....no warranty. I agree with AMD and I think they will soon implement a new board with no accessable golden edge connectors and use another way to set up the CPU for first sale that cannot be accessed outside the case. Of course thay want to be able to set them in the first place and they want to make this a 1 time task. A glued on cap would do this after setting. Of course there are 2 million of them out there to overclock, so there is no shortage. It will be like the celerons with the old ones demanding a premium as they could be overclocked and Intel eating the fried ones to this day. As Intel stopped that so will AMD. Best way would be a tell tale circuit on the board that ratted on you and voided the warranty above a certain speed. This could be done in a single chip. Ther could also use a single chip as a buffer to the fingers and use a fuse lnk to kill that chips ability to change speeds and freeze the CPU at the setup speed. It all depends on the number they eat on overclock warranty claims versus the cost of some universal feature to stop the overclockers and yet give them assenbly line programmability. I would like to see them able to sell them to overclockers as long as the overclockers know they take the risk and accept it in case they void the warranty, so a tall tale would be best. Bill