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To: Paul Engel who wrote (97098)	1/21/2000 8:54:00 PM
From: Peter Weber	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul: Re 'Do all companies in Germany have such a structure?' Don't know if they all do, but my relatives and friends all seem to work for companies that have them (as small as 30-40 employees and as big as Daimler-Benz). Peter

To: Paul Engel who wrote (97098)	1/22/2000 8:52:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

All large industrial companies (2000 employees is the last number I remember) are subject to the codetermination law (Mitbestimmung). The Supervisory Board is composed half of stockholder representatives (often chosen by the bank that manages a majority of the stock) and half by the employees (elected from different groups). This board, headed by a chairman from the stockholders, chooses an employment director who must be approved by the workers. The SB chooses a Management Board, and the workers elect representatives to the workers' or works' council (Betreibsrat) which working with the employment director deals with jobs, pay rates (within or above a national settlement between the industry and the trade union) grievances, etc. Almost every American who looks at this system is aghast. IBM Europe, for instance, moved its European headquarters to Switzerland to get away from it all over Europe. Foreign firm subsidiaries operating in Germany are subject to the same laws.