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To: milo_morai who wrote (88913)	1/22/2000 2:01:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572637

milo - <"Copper has a fierce advantage over aluminum wiring," said Andrew Allison, a computer industry consultant. "It just about doubles the frequency. > I wouldn't hold my breath for that kind of improvement on the MOT process. Also, I believe Mr. Allison's arguments could be debated ad infinitum. I assure you that if an Al process at .18 is worth it's salt, it can compete with Cu processes. Going forward, Cu will start to demonstrate more of an advantage. IBM has a penchant for really exaggerating the benefits of its process technology. Everything IBM has come out with, Intel has done in one setting or another, be it Cu, SOI, whatever. I believe Intel has an extremely good feel for what the real benefits of IBM process tech are. Lest you get me wrong, IBM process technology is good, real good. But they do over-hype the benefits, IMO. IBM's .18 "frequency doubles" because of transistor improvements and dielectric improvements, in addition to Cu. PB

To: milo_morai who wrote (88913)	1/24/2000 1:22:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1572637

Milo - Re: " Copper has a fierce advantage over aluminum wiring," said Andrew Allison, a computer industry consultant. "It just about doubles the frequency...A single processor model 170 starts at $10,495 for the 333-MHz-based system, and $15,495 for the 400-MHz-based system." So, IBM uses Copper and has DOUBLED the frequency of the CPUs to 333 and 400 MHz !!! What an achievement ! Isn't that One-Half the speed of Intel and AMD CPUs that use aluminum metallization ? Paul