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To: Steve Lee who wrote (97124)	1/22/2000 10:34:00 AM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Steve, Re: A common complaint in corporate networks is "The server is too slow". Normally it is not the server but the network. I think we are at the beginning of a change to "My PC is too slow". PC too slow in terms of running what applications? Tony

To: Steve Lee who wrote (97124)	1/22/2000 11:27:00 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Steve,<<<A common complaint in corporate networks is "The server is too slow". Normally it is not the server but the network. I think we are at the beginning of a change to "My PC is too slow".>>> I do not have a technical background. My area of expertise is as a critic of public relations for Corporate Finance of microprocessor manufacturers with annual capacity of 100M units or more. I think John Hull is the only other known expert in this area. John has an advantage in that he has some hands on experience in this area, but I am older and wiser. Nevertheless, wrt computer response time in a corporate network environment, I have been an observer since the early online teleprocessing programs were installed at banking institutions and airlines (PARS). The more things change, the more they stay the same. When did we ever have enough capacity and when will we ever have enough capacity? At first the bottleneck was thought to have been with DASD, and after spreading things around a bit, and with introduction of multitasking programs, the CPU became the next major stumbling block. At first it was memory capacity and later with processing speed. Then as with now, bandwidth became a problem. Routers, as with client and server side computing, became a problem only recently (about 10 or fifteen years ago). The problem then (33 years ago) was that when you pressed the enter key it sometimes required ten to fifteen seconds to get a response back for even the simplest of tasks. The problem now is that sometimes when you press the enter key, it may take ten or fifteen seconds to get a response. The difference however is that the tasks are exponentially more complex. The key question now is if we were to eliminate all bottlenecks and get immediate response time for all tasks required, would that be enough? The simple answer is obviously no. The end of backlog for tasks that computers have to be programmed for and the degree of complexity necessary is not anywhere in sight. I get really furious whenever some so called expert appear on TV or on these threads and proclaim or suggest that we have reached some level of computing finality - or end game - where we do not require faster, more robust, computing capabilities. Some of these experts, however, do qualitfy their statements by adding that limits have been reached through their myopic vision and small minds. What I am suggesting is that nothing will ever be fast enough in the competitive global corporate environment. Some bottlenecks will be more inhibiting than others. But, all components have to be faster, handle more volume, and be more robust. The end is nowhere in sight for advances in technology in any of the components in a corporate computing environment. Mary

To: Steve Lee who wrote (97124)	1/22/2000 2:30:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Steve - Re: "A common complaint in corporate networks is "The server is too slow". Normally it is not the server but the network. I think we are at the beginning of a change to "My PC is too slow". This is good for Intel and potentially Rambus." Intel is pushing more and more as a "network solutions" vendor - switches and components - controllers - for switches & routers - as well as faster servers and high speed I/O at the server side. Re: "This is based on experience within large corporations in the UK. What trends are those of you who design and implement networks in other parts of the world seeing? " I'm really not exposed hand-on to corporate networks - just a very small home network - which itself needs a 10x speed upgrade! Paul