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To: crazyoldman who wrote (89040)	1/22/2000 10:20:00 PM
From: crazyoldman	Respond to of 1572751

More good news from amdzone: amdzone.com Saturday, January 22, 2000 KX133 Board Available In Australia? Reported by: ruiner At: 8:50 PM Source: e-mail Thanks to Sendarius for letting me know that KX133 boards are available in Australia. Apparently the EPOX EP-K7VA is already in stores and costs less than many AMD 750 boards. Kindest regards, CrazyMan

To: crazyoldman who wrote (89040)	1/22/2000 10:25:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572751

Elaltenutzo, With apologies to Elnino. You might say that the 'fog of battle' envelopes AMD's Dresden, and other plans. It does little good for AMD and can do a lot of harm if the details of Fab 30's(and other plans) timeline were known with precision to it's competitors.(Intel) Many of the errors made recently by Intel were a direct result of Intel's lack of information forcing them into premature decisions when the Athlon sprang onto the scene as a superior and powerful CPU. The hurried Intel counter has been shown to be a lamer and AMD has been able to sit back and enjoy periods of design and speed superiority. As in battle, not all goes AMD's way, but so far it has advanced share enormously at the cost of Intel share. Sure AMD has a smaller share...but growing. Sure the battle is not won yet....just a few skirmishes...that yielded the high ground where AMD has planted the flag. Well I am sure this will bring the "Intellabees" out in force. The Intellabees and a race of insectoids seen on the AMD thread, not too smart, but they never stop buzzing around and trying to get a stinger in here and there. Anyway welcome as well, crazyoldman. Bill

To: crazyoldman who wrote (89040)	1/22/2000 11:16:00 PM
From: Greater Fool	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572751

>>Any thoughts? I'm willing to take a stab at an answer: At that time all the K7 engineers were preoccupied with making sure K7 was working for launch. They couldn't spare K7 engineers for the product test engineering and so on. Also, the end of life of K6 was to be as a mobile part, as it has much lower power consumption than K7. So setting up K6 for Dresden production wouldn't be a total waste.

To: crazyoldman who wrote (89040)	1/23/2000 1:12:00 AM
From: Charles R	Respond to of 1572751

crazyoldman, Welcome to the thread. <At first I thought it strange that AMD would choose the K6 since at that time Jerry Sanders's press release stated something on the order of ...Even though the future of AMD rests on the K7 the first copper K6 was produced for copper qualification.> This may have to do with improving K6-3 speed grades. May also have something to do with benchmarking Fab30 with Fab25 using an established part. <I had the fortune to meet and visit with an AMD California employee in November. When I asked what he was working on he said, "testing a K6". Copper? Reply, yes. From Dresden?Reply, yes.> I expect to see very few new mainstream or performance processor products comeup on Fab25 as the fab rampsup Flash. Once Fab30 is up the bin split disadvantages of Fab25 will make it difficult to build mainstream PC processors there. <In view of the more recent news of the Microsoft xbox and rumors of low thermal possibilities I'm wondering if this the reason that the first Dresden part was K6. Is it possible that Microsoft's xbox deal could have been in the works last summer? > Since the rumors on the X-box surfaced around September/October time frame, the deal would definitely be a consideration in the summer time frame that you refer to. Chuck