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To: Process Boy who wrote (89057)1/23/2000 1:07:00 AM
From: milo_morai  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572188
 
Dan3 had this info on Dresden

Message 12119582
To: Charles R who wrote (81153)
From: Dan3 Friday, Nov 26, 1999 10:59 PM ET
Reply # of 89062

Re: Two not necessarily good things for AMD...Intel's 0.13 seems on target (first silicon is expected to be CuMine+ in Q2
Hmmm... you might want to take a look at:
amd.com

I find two points particularly interesting. The first is (slides 5&6) that the Austin .18 yields gate lengths of 120nm while the Dresden .18 yields gate lengths of 100nm. So it looks like the Dresden .18 is maybe more of a .15 - that AMD still expects will be in full production by the end of Q2 - not just starting up.

Now look at slide 9. It shows a small amount of production of .13 (with gate lengths as short as 50nm according to slide 7). Ramping slowly during the year starting in early 2000.

Given that the Athlon core at .25 ran about 15% faster than the Pentium core at the same feature size, and given that AMD's recent launches have been more timely than Intel's, I think the general situation is still looking better than OK for AMD.

Rember that .13 is the generation that is expected to strongly benefit from copper interconnects, and AMD is developing production experience now, while Intel is perfecting a terrific Aluminum production technology that even they consider to be a dead end.

Regards,

Dan


Good info Dan

Milo



To: Process Boy who wrote (89057)1/23/2000 8:38:00 PM
From: Mani1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572188
 
PB re <<And it seems to me that I am being handicapped with my debates just because I work for Intel. >>

Perhaps, I think that is fair. After all you being employed by Intel is a reason to be biased.

How many players in sport think they are going to lose the game they are about to play? A lot less than 50%.

Re <<Am I not allowed to strongly disagree, opinion or not?>>

Yes you are, I took exception to your comments of "BFD" to Milo.

Mani