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To: MNI who wrote (15870)1/28/2000 8:58:00 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 17770
 
Part of the problem is defining ethnicity. If it is a quasi- racial category, then Yugoslavia was mono- ethnic, with a few scattered minority enclaves. If it is defined by language, then it was mono- ethnic: they all speak Serbo-Croatian. It is unusual to define it by religious confession: even in the Middle East, Arabic speaking Christians are considered to be Arabs. Ethnicity is the not the appropriate term for the conflicts in that country, although some of them appear to be ethnic,unless we make clear that it is a very loose designation of "peoplehood". But the term, by having a quasi- racial connotation, is damaged goods, and it would probably be better to speak of "historically divided communities".....

Anyway, it is simply true that in Europe, the attempt to enforce a mono- ethnic nationalism has been the greatest source of strife, and it is by no means clear that without the idea of the Volk, which went beyond Germany, that multi- ethnic states would have been destabilized. Great Britain, for example, has been reasonably stable, although it incorporates Wales, England, and Scotland. Only within the vexed history of Ireland has there been particular strife. Switzerland has been an oasis of stability. As I have said elsewhere, I think that a common culture is necessary to have a vibrant nation, but that does not mean extirpating all traces of sub- cultures. Rather, it means that they have a way of coexisting within the larger framework.....



To: MNI who wrote (15870)1/28/2000 10:20:00 PM
From: John Lacelle  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 17770
 
MNI and Gustave,

The fact remains that the myth of "multiculturalism"
is as dangerous as the myth of the "Aryan Race" created
by the bad boy of the 20th century Mr. Hitler. If you
had bothered to read "The Communist Manifesto" as I did,
you would have known that "multiculturalism" is the
hallmark of Communism. Marx and Lenin were both convinced
that the only true measure of the difference between men
was their class difference and that all cultural differen-
ces were meaningless in the face of a class based society.

Again, I point to Lenin's "Soviet Union" and Tito's
"Yugoslavia" as examples of failed "multicultural"
societies. Both of you sound like Emma Lazaris clones
ready to plaster more insanity upon the Statue of Libery
in New York Harbor. As a final note, I might point out
that the Statue of Liberty was a gift from the French
Government to the United States in celebration of its
100th centenial, and that the Statue represents the
concept of "Liberty", ie "Freedom" in English, and has
*nothing* to do with "multiculturalism" or immigration
as many fools think. In fact, if the United States was
such a great "multicultural" nation, why did they destroy
the 100 Native American nations that exsisted in North
America? Answer me that boys!!!

-John (who grows tired of having to destroy the myth)