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To: chaz who wrote (16715)	1/28/2000 3:33:00 PM
From: James Sinclair	Respond to of 54805

take me back through the shift from 123 to Excel...I was gone (from the industry) while that was going on, but I gathered that MSFT's "Office bundle" did 'em in, with probably some IBM-ese PC-level goofs thrown in. As I recall, it also didn't help that Lotus was VERY slow to get a Windows-based version of 123 out the door.

To: chaz who wrote (16715)	1/31/2000 10:14:00 AM
From: DownSouth	Respond to of 54805

chaz, RE: Lotus and Excel. James' point about Lotus not providing a Windows product is very true. As I recall, the head of Lotus (can't recall his name) made it publicly known that he was not going to do anything that would help Windows succeed, so he refused to provide a Windows app. In face, he had at least one major new release of Lotus while Windows 3.1 was skyrocketing. In other words, he refused to be a part of the Windows value chain. I remember customers running Windows 3.1, but having to run their Lotus in a DOS window. They were very unhappy. That gave Excel the opportunity to take over the spreadsheet space even before the Office Suite became available.