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To: tejek who wrote (90432)1/29/2000 9:08:00 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574309
 
Re: "Hans, I don't know the answer to your question. I had thought the wafers had to be processed in some way to yield that level of Mhz. Doesn't anyone on the thread know the answer to this question.....its a good one at least to someone like me who is nontech."

Assuming they are the same revision, it is not desireable to have different process flows. All wafers should be processed the same way.

EP



To: tejek who wrote (90432)1/30/2000 1:29:00 AM
From: Hans de Vries  Respond to of 1574309
 
Re: "Hans, I don't know the answer to your question. I had thought the wafers had to be processed in some way to yield that level of Mhz. Doesn't anyone on the thread know the answer to this question.....its a good one at least to someone like me who is nontech."

I was wondering about fiddling with process parameters as well Ted. However, much bigger process improvements like going to copper in Dresden and going from 120 nm gates to 100 nm gates both bring "only" a circa 10% improvement in frequency. (Maybe just enough to bring most of the Dresden bin splits on 1GHz and higher). I tend to believe Elmer when he says that it is not desireable to have different process flows.

Thank you for the welcom, Ted. It was indeed my first post on this thread. I have been following it for a while though. I still have a bookmark somewhere to message 73107.....

Hans.



To: tejek who wrote (90432)1/30/2000 8:21:00 AM
From: Gopher Broke  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574309
 
Hans, <<Does AMD keep the highest bin-splits on stock for the time being? >>

Unlikely. AMD is not selling any higher MHz parts because they don't want to destabilize the market. Holding on to them for later would be illogical. They could be sold now as 800s for a good profit. When 900MHz is introduced it will inevitably depress prices and the 900s will probably sell at the same price as 800s do now.

AMD certainly took the downbinning approach with low speed Athlons when the yields were too good in the higher grades (overclockers cracking them open were finding they were internally marked as a couple of speed grades higher than externally).