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To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (29639)2/1/2000 9:54:00 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Robert,

You said, "What ever decision you think we would have made, even though not yet born, would still be doomed as it originates from Adam. "

Why? Couldn't Adam have chosen not to eat from the tree? This is where we must differ...right? Adam had absolute free will to choose whether to eat or not! If he did not, God condemned us from the start to be sinners! And would have that have been fair?

God gave Adam the choice whether to eat, or not to eat. Adam chose to eat. God did not make Adam sin, Adam did it to himself! God does not choose for us to sin, we sin by ourselves!

Adam's free will to choose sin or not is the same as us having the free will to choose to have faith in God. Just because we are fallen, that does not preclude us from making choices correctly, does it? God provides, at one or many points in our lifetime, an opportunity to have faith or not, regardless of our fallen nature.

Why would you limit God from having the ability to do this?

I look forward to a response.....

God Bless,
Steve

PS- Before I was saved, I was fallen, and I chose to have faith in Christ. I am example of what I tell you above!



To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (29639)2/1/2000 10:16:00 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Robert,

"What ever decision you think we would have made, even though not yet born, would still be doomed as it originates from Adam."

Additionally, you think all of our choices had to be based on Adam, when Adam did not even exist yet! This choice we made was before Adam existed. This choice as I explained before was before creation! Don't limit things to space and time. Its hard I know. And like I said before, many get caught in the same trap. But God lives outside space and time. Your "originates from Adam" theory doesn't hold up outside the time continuim! And God could have gave us a fair chance to choose, regardless of Adam, especially because Adam did not exist yet!

God Bless,
Steve