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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (3520)2/2/2000 3:58:00 PM
From: Eric L  Respond to of 34857
 
Tero,

<< If you think that this is a good moment to launch a GSM/CDMA dual-mode phone with its high IPR costs >>

China Unicom will offer a dual mode phone. When, I can't tell you. You heard it here first if you haven't heard it before.

- Eric -



To: tero kuittinen who wrote (3520)2/2/2000 4:11:00 PM
From: Gus  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 34857
 
Who's on first? "IPR schemes" and the crumbling difference between relevant and essential. From a hilarious Corpgold post at the IDC club on RB:


I spoke to a "spokesperson" at Qualcomm yesterday in regard to the 100 patents they claim are "relevant" to WCDMA. The conversation went something like this:

"how many patents does Q claim are essential to the production of WCDMA"

Answer: we have over 100 patents that are relevant

"no, I didn't ask "relevancy", I asked essential. there are two designated platforms within the ITU which cover patents - those considered essential and those considered additive. are the 100 patents you mentioned part of the essential base or the additive base?"

A: i can't comment further on that, we were told to use the term "relevant"

"relevant and essential are two separate platforms - which is it?"

A: they are relevant


"are you aware of the two platforms within the ITU 3g standards...I'm not suggesting this to you, I'm telling you there are two platforms...if you say to the market we have 100 relevant patents this doesn't say whether they fall into the essential category or the additive category; can you extrapolate further?"

A: Qualcomm has CDMA patents all over the world. I'm only allowed to tell you that there are patents that are relevant.

Okay. They can't or won't say which patents are essential. I can tell you though, that few Q patents are regarded as 'essential' to the operation of WCDMA. This is the platform. I didn't invent it.

the market is obviously considering other benefits to Q today - such as the bluetooth arrangement bw ERICY and Q. although we've not had time to study the full implications of this announcement relative to NOK's involvement - it appears somewhat meaningless on what front; that front being that many small companies own IPR and technology for bluetooth application; none of which are 3g compliant as of yet


What can you do, Tero? That's their story and they're sticking to it. lol