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To: Crocodile who wrote (46376)	2/2/2000 4:55:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

Alternate Worlds. Or you can escape into drugs, if they'd just improve them. But no. I am thinking I will have to get a piece of bigger land, and keep everyone off it. Like Francis Drake, without England. Maybe ban cars inside it. And light bubs over 25 or 40 watts. ("If you can't do it by 25 watt light; you don't need to be a-doin it.") You could come, of course. Actual chances of forming an alternate culture are not very good; altho I have had dreams in them.

To: Crocodile who wrote (46376)	2/2/2000 5:25:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Respond to of 71178

I once had a dream that was based 5000 years in the future. I think when I got there I asked the question of the dream monitor. ("What....time is it?") Isn't that peculiar? That it would give you an inkling and then record of the date? The answer was wide. Involved a lot of data. Part of the substrate of the dream ~ that is, some important, very important fabric, woven into everything ~ was about dating, and numbers. Nothing in signs or written; but the number system was based on nine. Nine things. Units of time; days; etc. And used in counting. I asked about it when I first got there and got a "complete lecture"; but not enough time to absorb it. I made a mental note (har har ~ Gaugie makes mental "note") ~ to remember it. I imagined little bits of how it was used; or I saw them, and figured I could later use numbers, them being real and all, to construct more of it. The people had ripped up all the roads (I had to "figure out" what was missing), I mean ALL of them, a long time ago; by what felt like unanimous decision. They re-graded all the cuts and lines, for so long that there weren't even any superficial geologic signs of them. (It was pleasant.) (And quiet. Nothing louder than a human voice.) I was very, very, surprised by this. Yet, the culture, in the truest, most pure meaning, was very advanced. Comparatively. If we think of humans as existing here for c 50,000 years bio-unchanged, and imagine us survivng forward 5,000, what do we get? It's mysterious. And even though we "doubt" this machine culture could survive that long, suppose it could. And that people decided to go another direction with culture? Just by themselves, naturally. The way Time does. ~~~~~~~~ Base nine is the key. (Heh heh. That was really fun to say.) ("And I am the keeper.") :o)

To: Crocodile who wrote (46376)	2/2/2000 6:50:00 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 71178

<<They have K-Mart and WalMart >> Last summer good neighbor Jan lived next door. She and Sue did horses together. Two outdoor gals discovered WalMart, we have the #1 super store here, which says even people living in new 10,000 sq ft homes can still be trailer trash. Anyway, the quit riding and went Walmarting. 4 carts for 2 women. Change of hobby I guess. III went to WalMart 4 years ago 2 days after Christmas and got a great jacket marked down from $99 to $17. Been washed a bunch and looks like new. I did go at 3am, not crowded then