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To: bhagavathi who wrote (98106)	2/2/2000 7:12:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

bhagavathi To borrow TONY's word Microslow I can't take credit for that one. I defended Microsoft in my last post for getting off the dime. But you're right, they do need to get more paranoid. Tony

To: bhagavathi who wrote (98106)	2/2/2000 8:44:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

mula - <Ahhhh the hidden agenda.> The mantra, regardless of mpu, memory, or networking platforms... Sil-i-con Con-tent Sil-i-con Con-tent Sil-i-con Con-tent.... PB

To: bhagavathi who wrote (98106)	2/2/2000 9:24:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Mula - Re: "Now with LINUX they better show up or they will be too late like windows CE." Maybe Microsoft has their software experts getting ready for AMD's 64 bit SludgeHumper. After all, if they start now, they may have Alpha code ready by the end of Q4/2001 to run on the SludgeHumper. Paul

To: bhagavathi who wrote (98106)	2/3/2000 5:43:00 AM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 186894

Hi Mula, I'm glad to see you are very keen about getting IA-64 support for Microsoft 2000. I hope you work in the group which interfaces with MS to make this happen. Your passion on this topic is very clear, which is a good thing - for both INTC and MSFT. RE: "To borrow TONY's word Microslow was not only late with the product (OS), it keeps on dragging its feet. Not to mention about the company specific formats and hard to integrate applications environment." Just a small nit, in a prior post you had (incorrectly) said MS wasn't ready with their 32-bit apps, when in fact, we were. RTM is different. Another thought: what stops a company from writing (or releasing, but difference answer) 32-bit enabled apps before the hardware systems platform is ready? RE: "Now with LINUX they better show up or they will be too late like windows CE. Win CE was released many years ago - even before the days of the grand billion dollar accumulated investments made into Newton-like handhelds, which were too early for their day and whose dismal failure put an end (temporarily) to any future investments in this industry (there's a moral to the story: don't be too early), only to be followed by the successful PalmPilot (another moral to the story: time the market right) which got financed by a French VC. The market size could be big enough now for Microsoft to make moves. It will be interesting to see if they win or lose this eventual market. So far, the messaging intergration appears to be superior?, but the 3rd party hardware support seems to lag (3rd party support has a time dependency factor). On the other hand, if MS decides to go critical mass on this, I suspect the 3rd party folks would sense this too. So, the issue which you are discussing appears to be a marketing decision (resources, focus, market sizes, timing), not an engineering issue. If you're interested in discussing the market dynamics of IA-64, I'd be interested in participating. RE: "was not only late with" But I guess I'm not especially keen in responding to posts, which contain a discrepancy in information. We could spend our time nitting on Merced's real schedule and MS's schedule (meanwhile ignoring the important market dynamics of IA-64), but I think Merced was the first Intel project which gave you folks (exactly) the same feel for the program management complexities of managing a super-duper big project, like Windows, (per SJMN, which had said Intel's management had experienced a project management challenge). How big were the development teams for 386 & Win31, Pentium & Win95, and Win2000 & Merced? On a different note, and changing tracks, you had said in a previous post: RE: "Itanium could be one of Intel's best products" I agree. I think you're right. This could very well be one of Intel's most successful product families. Godhi Singer did a fabulous job when he came in, and this will most likely be a wildly success product family. One of the industry's best. That's my bet. Best regards, Amy J